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blownz281 07-27-2012 04:56 PM

Banana fuel
 
Richard is out of this until the end of August. I need some feed for the nanners. His was 5-20-30 and thats what I am looking for. Any places I can get this thats a good price like his? Thanks

Abnshrek 07-27-2012 05:00 PM

Re: Banana fuel
 
I'm glad you said that.. I think I have enough till then.. :^)

sunfish 07-27-2012 05:27 PM

Re: Banana fuel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blownz281 (Post 201070)
Richard is out of this until the end of August. I need some feed for the nanners. His was 5-20-30 and thats what I am looking for. Any places I can get this thats a good price like his? Thanks

Maybe from caliboy :ha:

blownz281 07-27-2012 05:31 PM

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What other ratio could I use? I didn't see anything online matching 5-20-30 at HD-Lowes-Walmart-Tractor supply. I want something thats going to make the nanners grow like crazy like banana fuel.

crazy banana 07-27-2012 06:33 PM

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The banana fuel that Richard has sold is N 20 - P 5 - K 30 (not 5-20-30).
There is an online supplier ( wellsprings gardens, that sells 15-5-30. Depending on where you are located, that might be sufficient. Check the Wiki here on bananas.org about fertilizer: it explains very well, on how to add some Nitrogen to get your desired 20-5-30.

@ Tony: that was a funny post....

blownz281 07-27-2012 07:38 PM

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Yes thats what I meant.

momoese 07-27-2012 08:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 201073)
Maybe from caliboy :ha:

Took the words right outa my mouth! :ha:

RandyGHO 07-27-2012 09:04 PM

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You can use this fertilizer calculator to figure out what you can use to mix together. It is an excellent tool.

NPK Soil Fertilizer Calculator

Walmart has 5-0-15 in our area which is about 90 miles inland from you so I would guess you have it too. I use that with 10-10-10 for a 10-2-22. The calculator figures out the mix and 5 error.

gtrplr71 07-28-2012 04:21 AM

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http://www.wellspringgardens.org/ser...--dsh--2/Detai
Here ya go I love doing business with these guys !:08:

blownz281 07-28-2012 08:09 AM

Re: Banana fuel
 
How long have you ordered from them? Just want to make sure its safe. Thanks

gtrplr71 07-28-2012 08:35 AM

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I ordered last Fri I had it by the following Thurs. And a free plant I also just placed an order for some bird of paradise plants and a truly tiny they have buy one get one free on Basjoo. Great to work with and the have some of the best prices around.

Arachnotron 07-28-2012 08:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blownz281 (Post 201101)
How long have you ordered from them? Just want to make sure its safe. Thanks

I've used it for over a year. My bananas like it. :ha:

blownz281 07-28-2012 12:32 PM

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So you bought some fertilizer and got a free banana plant? Thats cool!

No I meant was the company safe. I know the fertilizer is safe!

Snookie 07-28-2012 01:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blownz281 (Post 201110)
So you bought some fertilizer and got a free banana plant? Thats cool!

No I meant was the company safe. I know the fertilizer is safe!

Just recieved my first order from them...ALL GOOD in the neighborhood.

Got a couple of Barbados Cherry Plants, A coffee Plant and some BLUE Banana Fuel Fertilizer from them.

Fast and effecient PLEASED so far...Plants look good so......

There You go:}

gtrplr71 07-28-2012 03:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blownz281 (Post 201110)
So you bought some fertilizer and got a free banana plant? Thats cool!

No I meant was the company safe. I know the fertilizer is safe!

No I bought fertilizer and got a free coffee plant. And got an additional 15% off my next order

RandyGHO 07-28-2012 03:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gtrplr71 (Post 201117)
No I bought fertilizer and got a free coffee plant. And got an additional 15% off my next order

:) I don't think it was free. They had a special on that coffee plant was a penny.

gtrplr71 07-28-2012 05:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyGHO (Post 201122)
:) I don't think it was free. They had a special on that coffee plant was a penny.

I did not order it ,is was in the box

Olafhenny 07-28-2012 05:42 PM

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I am quoting below my post here: http://www.bananas.org/f310/using-mi...w-16064-2.html

QUOTE
The fertilizer industry is one of the biggest, but legal, rackets on this continent.

No matter how ‘miraculous’ or ‘wonder grow’ the name is, any fertilizer consists of only three
elements: Nitrogen (first number) Phosphates (second number) and the third number: Potassium.
You need all of them every time you fertilize. Everything else is trace elements. For those you
have to contact your local department of agriculture or such and have the soil analyzed. But that
is rarely necessary, if you also use some compost in your soil.

As far as the basic fertilizers are concerned you just need to know,
- that nitrogen is there to produce plant mass
- phosphates are for bloom and fruit
- potassium will help roots to develop.

Accordingly you will pronounce nitrogen and phosphates in spring, except for your lawn, there you want
to stay low on phosphates, because you do not want it to break out in bloom and seeds.
Go heavy with potassium in fall, when all plants outside of the tropics retract their juices back
into the roots. That makes the leaves loose their chlorophyll and turn those wonderful colours.

Another thing to know in this context is that plants as a rule grow toward warmth, i.e., in spring, when
the air warmer than the ground plants grow “up”. They sprout everywhere. In fall everything, which has
been retracted, goes into the roots. That is, why the best time to (trans-) plant is fall. The garden
shops know that, but their customers don’t. They are much more easily captured by displays of spring
awakening then by retiring plants in fall. That is why you can’t find anything decent in your garden
shops, when it is the best time to plant.

Back to the fertilizer: I buy one big bag each of the three fertilizers in high concentration. then mix it as
desired and get it for about one sixth of the price I’d have to pay at Walmart or Home Depot. If
you are in doubt as to what kind of blend to use for your tomatoes, just go to the next store and look
at the label of tomato-specific fertilizer and take your cue from there.

One word of caution: If you go too heavy on the nitrogen, you are likely going to burn some roots.
That goes no matter if you use premixed or mix your own.
UNQUOTE

I had recently a Lady offering me some rose fertilizer, because she didn't have any roses. I asked
her, if she had tomatoes. She had. The fertilizer mix for roses and tomatoes is identical, give
or take a percent or two variation between brands.

The fertilizer you are looking for, 5-20-30. Is low on nitrogen, which promotes growth of plant
mass, but high on phosphates for bloom and fruit as well as on potassium for root
development (?!).



Good luck,
Olaf



TommyMacLuckie 08-15-2012 12:29 PM

Re: Banana fuel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtrplr71 (Post 201098)
http://www.wellspringgardens.org/ser...--dsh--2/Detai
Here ya go I love doing business with these guys !:08:

How much comes with one order? 2 lbs? Ha ha. I need more than that.

Abnshrek 08-15-2012 01:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyMacLuckie (Post 202665)
How much comes with one order? 2 lbs? Ha ha. I need more than that.

Richard sells 50 lbs @ a whack or in the 5lb bag.. but supposedly he won't have any till the end of the month..

briancoconut 09-27-2012 02:58 PM

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rich website and or phone or email ??????

crazy banana 09-27-2012 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by briancoconut (Post 205656)
rich website and or phone or email ??????

Plantsthatproduce.com

austinl01 09-27-2012 03:30 PM

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Mix your own and you will save a lot of money. You can mix together fertilizer that is commonly sold in your area to make your own blend. Use this calculator for help: NPK Soil Fertilizer Calculator

Olafhenny 09-27-2012 06:08 PM

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Good site recommended by Austin.
The first 3 on the list are all you need. If you mix the first three in equal parts you would get
15-15-20. You can take it from there changing the proportions in accordance with your
requirements, using a bit of math. Get a 55lb or similar weight from your local agricultural
supply store, such as Buckerfields.

Don’t worry about getting your mix just right. My wife sometimes refers to fertilizer as 'vitamins'
and she is pretty close with that. Just as your body picks and chooses in accordance with its
needs from all the fruit and veggies you eat and you do not overdose on potassium from all the
bananas you eat. :ha: Your plants will pick and choose to some degree their soil chemistry
requirements, providing they are available. You just have to be careful with nitrogen, it can burn
the roots and newly transplanted are best fed with bone meal and left alone for a month or
so, to get settled in, before fertilizing with other stuff.

Good luck,
Olaf




nannerfunboi 10-02-2012 09:35 AM

Re: Banana fuel
 
i use the wellspring nanner fuel..but i stretch it using my homemade manure tea..
which bumps up the N some.. im thinking the P as well..
next yr..i plan to buy richards..just a bit higher in N..which i think all my tropicals need..
i'll still stretch it using my manure tea..
i have great results from it.. i also use alfalfa meal in another "tea" which i put on..

Newbie with bananas 10-19-2012 05:15 PM

Re: Banana fuel
 
I got some 15-5-30 from wellsprings gardens just waiting for it to come in

crazy banana 10-19-2012 11:16 PM

Re: Banana fuel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Newbie with bananas (Post 207488)
I got some 15-5-30 from wellsprings gardens just waiting for it to come in

Right in time for spring 2013. Growing season is pretty much over for most of us banana growers, meaning no more fertilizing until spring unless you live in Hawaii or the Caribean Islands

Newbie with bananas 10-19-2012 11:40 PM

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That's if my sdc makes it

crazy banana 10-19-2012 11:53 PM

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I just saw your post about your SDC. You got some good advice there: heating mat, low watering. Banana fuel is great but it does not give you a free pass on all the other requirements ( soil, temperature and water application) . Best of luck.

Paige818 10-25-2012 10:14 PM

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I am learning a lot. Thank you!

cbezak 10-27-2012 08:41 AM

Re: Banana fuel
 
I just potted a nice Siam Ruby in an ornamental pot. Used mix of MG cactus palm, new MG Expanding Potting Soil plus some perlite!

Can someone advise on the amount of water and Gro Lite exposure it needs. It is about 18" tall.

Just ordered Fuel from Wellsprings so that should be here soon.:goteam:

Any help would be appreciated!!!

H2O 10-27-2012 09:11 AM

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Hi !

Amount of water : depend on pot size & draining :ha:

What i do:

Indoor winter: Water once or twice a week (when surface dry)
Light : i try to give them 10-12 hrs a day of 150w 6000k hqi bulb light.

sadly i only have one bulb to light them all

and for Fuel:
Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy banana (Post 207498)
Right in time for spring 2013. Growing season is pretty much over for most of us banana growers, meaning no more fertilizing until spring unless you live in Hawaii or the Caribean Islands


TRAY 10-27-2012 02:58 PM

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Carla,
Here is an option on lighting, (as well as others) depending on the amount of energy you want to use and a full spectrum bulb is recommended for plant lighting.
Eiko 88181 - 85 Watt - CFL


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