Bagging Bunches

Nicolas Naranja · 07-28-2013, 01:44 PM

After the plant flowers and all the hands are exposed, I cut the male bud off and deflower the fingers. I make the bags out of lightweight frost cloth. The fabric is 8' wide and it comes doubled over on a 4' bolt. I sew a seam down the open side and roll the fabric onto a broom stick. My ladder has a hole on the top rung and I feed the fabric through the hole. I bull the bag over the bunch and tie to top at least 6" above the top hand. I then cut the bag about 18" below the bottom hand and tie it with another piece of flagging tape. Blue is the color for this week, I change colors based on the week.

Why all this effort? It protects against wind scarring, sun burn, and thrips. The fruit I have harvested that was bagged better looking and heavier.

Hua Moa

FHIA-17

Dwarf Nam Wah

Darkman · 07-28-2013, 04:37 PM

Is the double row for next years crop?

What do you do with all the Suckers you cull? You must have four or five for every main P-stem and you can only use so many of them.

Nicolas Naranja · 07-28-2013, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkman

Is the double row for next years crop?

What do you do with all the Suckers you cull? You must have four or five for every main P-stem and you can only use so many of them.

I kill the suckers that I don't sell. As far as the double row goes, that's my planting system behind the house. I've got 106 mats in a 100x72 space. The little plants are resets. %had dwarf super plantain there and I dug them out. It is a high input system. I have to irrigate a lot in the dry season, and I have to fertilize a bit more than I do at the larger farm. I also have to desucker aggresively.

In contrast, the other farm has a 15x15 spacing. I dont have to do much up there, just kill weeds and select a follower at harvest.

GreenFin · 07-28-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja

I've got 106 mats in a 100x72 space.

That's awesome! How many bunches/yr is that arrangement good for, 200+?

Nicolas Naranja · 07-28-2013, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenFin

That's awesome! How many bunches/yr is that arrangement good for, 200+?

Thus far I would say 6-9 months between bunches. Good god w here do all the bunches go. I calculated that one year I sold something like 60-70 thousand bananas.

Nicolas Naranja · 07-29-2013, 08:41 AM

So this gives some perspective on the double-row. They are 18' center to center and with 6' between rows in the double row and the plants are 7' apart offset with in the rows.

This is how it looks when it is being planted.

Darkman · 07-29-2013, 04:48 PM

What herbicide are you using?

Nicolas Naranja · 07-29-2013, 05:29 PM

glyphosate + pelargonic acid

Darkman · 07-29-2013, 05:42 PM

Ah yes Scythe. Is it sold under a generic name? What is available here is about $150.00 and is a large quantity. Much more than what I would ever use. What mix ratio are you using? I assuming you mix the two and then spray.

Before it is brought up, it is a very safe herbicide!

http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/health/...nic%20acid.pdf

Nicolas Naranja · 07-29-2013, 08:00 PM

I actually use scythe. I discovered that I could kill parthenium and commelina by mixing 8 oz gly and 8 oz PA. Of course the PA smokes a lot of weeds on its own.

PR-Giants · 08-01-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja

The fruit I have harvested that was bagged better looking and heavier.

How do the bags increase the bunch weight?

Nicolas Naranja · 08-02-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

How do the bags increase the bunch weight?

I am guessing that it stays warmer in the bag at night. By bigger, I mean thicker.

Nicolas Naranja · 08-26-2013, 12:39 PM

So Here is an unclipped bunch of Goldfinger

First step is clipping the bell off

Then I cut the last hand off

I deflower the fingers

Then I slide the bag over the bunch and tie with flagging tape

PR-Giants · 08-26-2013, 01:28 PM

The peduncle on that FHIA-01 looks very thick, nice growing.

G.W. · 08-26-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja

. Good god where do all the bunches go.

This ^^

Those bags look much nicer than the trash bag I ruined a bunch with when I first started this.

Discussion of density is always interesting. Am trying some double rows for next year.

aflowers · 01-24-2019, 12:04 PM

Your post is exactly what I needed.
Do you have a source for the material you mention? I need to get some.
Thank you,
Alan

Nicolas Naranja · 01-27-2019, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aflowers

Your post is exactly what I needed.
Do you have a source for the material you mention? I need to get some.
Thank you,
Alan

Check out the Thrips control thread. It’s agribon 19. You can get it from Amazon

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