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Abnshrek 08-04-2010 10:22 PM

Azomite (azomite.com)
 
Recently Dan (banimal) suggested I look into this stuff. So I went to the site and read about the studies done especially the banana one, but the corm is impressive as well. I did and applied it 4 days ago. :^) Now I have a leaf on my Ice Cream coming out of a leaf not completely open. The leaf I posted on the Cali-Gold the leaf that just opened has a leaf 3/4 of the way up the center of the leaf in close up. So its definitely doing its job. I'm happy :^)

Feel free to chime in about your experiences with it. :^)

Richard 08-05-2010 12:16 AM

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At 900 ppm Fluorine, I think I'll stick with Uranium Nitrate. :)
Azomite Certificate of Analysis

bananimal 08-22-2010 03:51 PM

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Uranium Nitrate -------hmmmmmmmmm-----------bananas that glow in the dark --- Wow

Abnshrek 08-06-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 139330)
bananas that glow in the dark --- Wow

I bet they would have one hell of a shelf life.. :^)

PR-Giants 08-06-2013 12:55 PM

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Azomite is the "BEST" and this quote proves it....

"Ninety percent of the tomato plants treated with compost and AZOMITE®, bloomed three weeks ahead of the tomato plants with fertilizer alone." --- Kirk Waterstripe, Ph.D., Professor of Botany

Clearly the :drum:AZOMITE®,:drum::drum: AZOMITE® and compost, or :drum::drum::drum:compost :ha::ha::ha: made the difference.

bananimal 08-06-2013 02:42 PM

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I still have a big Azomite bottle left from Peaceful Valley. My regimen for planting new bananas these days is dig a hole 16 inches wider and 3 inches deeper than the corm or rootball. I make a 50:50 fill mix of the dug out dirt and an organic mix. Organic mix is peatmoss, certified organic compost and black Kow manure. As well as azomite and 4 or 5 cups of worm castings. Also I wet the naner corm and roots and dust with mychorrizae powder. This operation is best done in the kitchen sink.

I fill and tamp to set the top of the corm an inch or 2 higher than soil level. Finish fill in and topdress with a cup of 6-3-16 and Purdue chicken litter. Set the water emitters in place and whallar! Fruit to eat in a year or less.

sunfish 08-06-2013 03:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 225501)
I still have a big Azomite bottle left from Peaceful Valley. My regimen for planting new bananas these days is dig a hole 16 inches wider and 3 inches deeper than the corm or rootball. I make a 50:50 fill mix of the dug out dirt and an organic mix. Organic mix is peatmoss, certified organic compost and black Kow manure. As well as azomite and 4 or 5 cups of worm castings. Also I wet the naner corm and roots and dust with mychorrizae powder.

I fill and tamp to set the top of the corm an inch or 2 higher than soil level. Finish fill in and topdress with a cup of 6-3-16 and Purdue chicken litter. Set the water emitters in place and whallar! Fruit to eat in a year or less.

You forgot to add the kitchen sink

Abnshrek 08-06-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 225503)
You forgot to add the kitchen sink

Its all in the detail isn't it.. :^)

sunfish 08-06-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek (Post 225509)
Its all in the detail isn't it.. :^)

It's all something

trebor 08-06-2013 06:01 PM

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bananimal probably has some great looking trees with all the care he gives them , Geeze ....


Hmmm Azomite. :0)
OK I use it and would not think about not using it. If your growing things other than Musa . Im sure most of us are. And you live in Florida , growing in SAND . You will need a little something to make your plants flourish. Florida has so many different soils it kinda funny. Adding Azomite is the single best thing other than water to have success. Papaya growing alone with out it will grow! I meet people who have Papaya and I love to go to there home and treat one tree with Azomite. BANG the blooms go crazy and the fruit will begin to grow like in a dream. My phone will ring and I hear all manor of thank yous. Recently I planted a Sour Sop and I used a normal amount of Azomite in the soil. My neighbor from Central America has a Sour Sop also . When he saw my tree nice and green with nice shiny leaves he was walking in circles . He kept looking at me and saying “ You SOB you better tell me what the F you did to this tree”… Its probably the best thing I have ever used.. The sand just needs all the help you can give it .. I use it quarterly. Also some sea weed tea is good along with compost of any type .. When I can dig and see worms I know Im in the zone

Richard 08-06-2013 11:07 PM

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Azomite is a product that encourages consumers to pay for the removal and redistribution of Aluminum Silicate. I suppose I might consider it for ornamentals. I wouldn't consider it for edibles - especially Citrus.

servatusprime 08-07-2013 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 137739)
At 900 ppm Fluorine, I think I'll stick with Uranium Nitrate. :)
Azomite Certificate of Analysis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 225543)
Azomite is a product that encourages consumers to pay for the removal and redistribution of Aluminum Silicate. I suppose I might consider it for ornamentals. I wouldn't consider it for edibles - especially Citrus.

So is the theory that the this stuff will make its way into the fruit and create some health concerns? Would a safer alternative with similar benefits be greensand? (other readily available suggestions?)

Thanks.

Richard 08-07-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by servatusprime (Post 225612)
So is the theory that the this stuff will make its way into the fruit and create some health concerns? Would a safer alternative with similar benefits be greensand? (other readily available suggestions?)

Thanks.

Greensand is a way for rock quarries to sell crusher dust instead of paying for its disposal elsewhere. It does contain a lot of minerals, but they are in covalent form and unavailable to plants.

On the other hand, it is beneficial to have sand and rock dust as a component of a garden soil -- along with a modest percentage of humic material. The sands and rock dust will provide important catalytic action for exchanges of ionic compounds.

There is no panacea in gardening, in human health, etc. If you are looking for a "silver bullet" -- go load up a shotgun and shoot all your plants. It will save you a lot of money and effort.

servatusprime 08-08-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 225628)

There is no panacea in gardening, in human health, etc. If you are looking for a "silver bullet" -- go load up a shotgun and shoot all your plants. It will save you a lot of money and effort.

Thanks Richard. If anything I was looking for a "green bullet" (insert exceptional photoshop image by Trebor) It seems that many people tout azomite's benefits, but I can understand your health concerns with the product. I think I'll look into greensand more. My soil could use some help.

trebor 08-08-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by servatusprime (Post 225662)
Thanks Richard. If anything I was looking for a "green bullet" (insert exceptional photoshop image by Trebor) It seems that many people tout azomite's benefits, but I can understand your health concerns with the product. I think I'll look into greensand more. My soil could use some help.


servatusprime 08-08-2013 08:10 PM

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LOL! That's awesome!

Snookie 08-09-2013 06:42 PM

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Hummmm I heard a few folks were using this product?

Any comments on it's effectiveness?


Richard 08-10-2013 03:47 AM

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Analysis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snookie (Post 225776)
Hummmm I heard a few folks were using this product?

Any comments on it's effectiveness?

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stevelau1911 08-11-2013 11:09 PM

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I use azomite to supplement my NPK 5-10-5 fertilizer application, and I do happen to get very heavy production on my garden plants. It's possible to see some pictures of some of it on the following threads.

bambooweb.info • View topic - Starting seeds for spring for gardening or perennials

bambooweb.info • View topic - Edible perennials?

Fbris 08-22-2013 09:21 PM

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What is the application rate?

Abnshrek 08-29-2013 09:41 PM

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I finally tried some on my Tomato's to see how it might inspire them.. :^)

sunfish 08-29-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek (Post 227711)
I finally tried some on my Tomato's to see how it might inspire them.. :^)

Have fun

Abnshrek 08-29-2013 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 227716)
Have fun

Picking them, indeed.. :^)

sunfish 08-29-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek (Post 227718)
Picking them, indeed.. :^)

Have a nice day

Abnshrek 08-29-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 227720)
Have a nice day

You too Tony.. Tomorrow I think I'll post some pic's of what Azomite has done w/ my 2nd yr. Hamlin Orange.. :^)

Abnshrek 08-30-2013 11:11 AM

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Hamlin not on Azomite

Hamlin on Azomite

Snookie 08-30-2013 03:05 PM

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Hummm.....Dat stuff sounds



PR-Giants 08-30-2013 03:48 PM

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Grub - Before eating banana plant treated with Azomite.



After



Bruno before Azomite Doggie Treats.



After


Abnshrek 08-30-2013 11:19 PM

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Man I'll be on the look out for them monster grubs.. :^)

Richard 09-22-2013 12:26 PM

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Azomite and "rock dust" products (e.g., green sand) have two important things in common:
  1. Nearly all the minerals listed on the package are in a form unavailable to plants; i.e., covalent compounds.
  2. The sources are residuals from rock quarries who would otherwise have to pay to dump this largely unusable by-product somewhere else.

Having said this, I should also point out that either of these are useful as a ONE TIME additive to a soil mix. Soil mixes are typically void of covalent rock subgravels and dusts. When present, they become important catalytic sites for ionic exchange. Again, the plants do not uptake the covalent rock material and so it never leaves the soil mix. There is no benefit but possible negatives to adding it more than once.

While talking about plant products that advertise unusable minerals, I would like to mention that the same is true of the plant hormone products Superthrive, Liquid Seaweed Extract, and Kelp solids. It is the hormones in these products that cause the benefit you see, and not the long list of rock minerals.

Snookie 09-22-2013 12:34 PM

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Hummmm...I've heard of Dolomite....uh Rudy Ray Moore lol; however not familiar with Azomite:}


G.W. 09-22-2013 01:51 PM

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Liquid Gold FTW !

Abnshrek 10-23-2013 10:38 PM

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For those folks out there that just want to try it.. There is a 2lb sampler packet available.. :^)

MICROBIAL EARTH FARMS – AZOMITE

Abnshrek 10-23-2013 11:20 PM

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I believe Richard thinks a young gardener may be influenced by a get over tactic in gardening, and quit.. Anyone growing banana's should grow them well (hone your skills) before you seek short-term benefits (like spring recovery) of this product.. I don't think I'd use it more than once a year even though some people do.. I'm sure Richard makes his case as you can read below.. So you young Gardeners have your soil mix down, know when your plants can handle full sun, and when it gets hot as hell partial shade can do some good. Azomite doesn't replace a good 2-1-3 Fert.. augmented of course.. :^)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 229491)
Azomite and "rock dust" products (e.g., green sand) have two important things in common:
  1. Nearly all the minerals listed on the package are in a form unavailable to plants; i.e., covalent compounds.
  2. The sources are residuals from rock quarries who would otherwise have to pay to dump this largely unusable by-product somewhere else.

Having said this, I should also point out that either of these are useful as a ONE TIME additive to a soil mix. Soil mixes are typically void of covalent rock subgravels and dusts. When present, they become important catalytic sites for ionic exchange. Again, the plants do not uptake the covalent rock material and so it never leaves the soil mix. There is no benefit but possible negatives to adding it more than once.

While talking about plant products that advertise unusable minerals, I would like to mention that the same is true of the plant hormone products Superthrive, Liquid Seaweed Extract, and Kelp solids. It is the hormones in these products that cause the benefit you see, and not the long list of rock minerals.


stevelau1911 10-23-2013 11:34 PM

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I think azomite on bananas is a simple waste of money if it's ornamental bananas as it only aids in the quality of the fruit production. It might help a bit in overall growth, but the micronutrients provided in it are usually only beneficial if you have deficiencies of it in your soil already. For example if you are already giving your bananas a nice fertilizer, and it is still turning yellow or rotting, then I would give azomite a shot.

Some things such as root rot can be a result of things other than nutrient deficiencies such as drainage which can be amended by organic materials, or gypsum. calcium deficiency often results in sudden browning, or rot on new leaves.

Something like urea, or manure is definitely more bang for the buck. I would only recommend azomite as a supplement to the garden if you are growing stuff for food, and you want an edge in overall production, but it definitely doesn't replace the macro/ NPK nutrients.

Richard 10-24-2013 01:44 AM

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I would never use Azomite on a food crop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevelau1911 (Post 232425)
I think azomite on bananas is a simple waste of money if it's ornamental bananas as it only aids in the quality of the fruit production. It might help a bit in overall growth, but the micronutrients provided in it are usually only beneficial if you have deficiencies of it in your soil already. For example if you are already giving your bananas a nice fertilizer, and it is still turning yellow or rotting, then I would give azomite a shot.

Some things such as root rot can be a result of things other than nutrient deficiencies such as drainage which can be amended by organic materials, or gypsum. calcium deficiency often results in sudden browning, or rot on new leaves.

Something like urea, or manure is definitely more bang for the buck. I would only recommend azomite as a supplement to the garden if you are growing stuff for food, and you want an edge in overall production, but it definitely doesn't replace the macro/ NPK nutrients.


Snookie 10-24-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 232433)
I would never use Azomite on a food crop.


DOLEMITE agrees with you:}


trebor 10-25-2013 09:22 AM

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I can agree with what Richard said about if you plant is growing then adding supplements is not such much of an advantage. But lets add to that the proven facts about plant growth. If a plant is lacking in minerals it will only grow to the size that the plant has available minerals for .. Or in simpler terms, if a plant were to have a need for one mineral it stops functioning at that point and continues in other areas to complete it’s life cycle.
So his saying its not needed is very true if your soil is properly supplemented with NPK and some other natural supplement.. Perhaps compost, Cow Manure, Urea .. If your bananas are growing like a weed then no need to toss money into the ground needlessly..
Also if you have a garden with several different types of plants growing then adding one pound per 10 feet of the garden area is a great idea, It answers the question as to “ Does it need it? ” Ya only need do it once per year . Its very cheap and you will have that possibility completely taken out of the picture.. Yes you can go to bed and sleep knowing its all there. Then add you NPK as needed.
An added note here about this type of product.. It’s a regional thing.. Haaa I mean if you live in Florida and are growing in sand. Get your sand tested Stop being so cheap! TEST IT.. It will come back to you with a letter of doom and gloom .. Sand needs help.. And for all you guys living in areas with decent soil ya have no idea how hard it can be to grow a tomato in sand.. So we look to improve our soil differently than others. Bananas need good soil.
I totally agree with Richard .. Use NPK and other natural stuff as mentioned above.. I also agree with ME Asomite is a good supplement I like it

sal 10-25-2013 09:54 AM

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Fastest Way to Lose 10 Pounds: The $1.41 Cleanse - YouTube

It can be use to cleanse your body. I would not try this. LOL. What's next?! Cleansing with your compost!

bananimal 10-25-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sal (Post 232563)
Fastest Way to Lose 10 Pounds: The $1.41 Cleanse - YouTube

It can be use to cleanse your body. I would not try this. LOL. What's next?! Cleansing with your compost!

Hey Tony - you try it first and let us know how everything comes out. lol

Snookie 10-25-2013 04:32 PM

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WOW......



sunfish 10-25-2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 232579)
Hey Tony - you try it first and let us know how everything comes out. lol

Hey Dan I think you need it more than me. Maybe you should pass some around at your garden club.

Abnshrek 10-25-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 232592)
Hey Dan I think you need it more than me. Maybe you should pass some around at your garden club.

You saying Dan is a Member of the Tall-Tale Gardening Club? lol :^)

Abnshrek 04-15-2014 08:25 PM

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This weekend I will be breaking out, Tablespoon to jump start all that will grow.. The pellets work just as good as the Micronized.. They both dissolve in water, pellets just require a lil patience.. :^)


Abnshrek 04-15-2014 08:41 PM

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(I know Richard isn't going to Like this) but this product works great on Pineapple for growth and pupping (Banana's included), but is not the only source of Fert you should use on plants.. :^)

skiarun 08-18-2014 07:48 PM

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Pretty soon you are going to have bananas growing on your bananas.

jeffaroo 05-13-2015 06:54 PM

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If you have a Geiger counter sniff out your azomite. Results are shocking


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