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Old 08-29-2013, 09:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I finally tried some on my Tomato's to see how it might inspire them.. :^)
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You too Tony.. Tomorrow I think I'll post some pic's of what Azomite has done w/ my 2nd yr. Hamlin Orange.. :^)
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Grub - Before eating banana plant treated with Azomite.



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Man I'll be on the look out for them monster grubs.. :^)
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Azomite and "rock dust" products (e.g., green sand) have two important things in common:
  1. Nearly all the minerals listed on the package are in a form unavailable to plants; i.e., covalent compounds.
  2. The sources are residuals from rock quarries who would otherwise have to pay to dump this largely unusable by-product somewhere else.

Having said this, I should also point out that either of these are useful as a ONE TIME additive to a soil mix. Soil mixes are typically void of covalent rock subgravels and dusts. When present, they become important catalytic sites for ionic exchange. Again, the plants do not uptake the covalent rock material and so it never leaves the soil mix. There is no benefit but possible negatives to adding it more than once.

While talking about plant products that advertise unusable minerals, I would like to mention that the same is true of the plant hormone products Superthrive, Liquid Seaweed Extract, and Kelp solids. It is the hormones in these products that cause the benefit you see, and not the long list of rock minerals.
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Hummmm...I've heard of Dolomite....uh Rudy Ray Moore lol; however not familiar with Azomite:}

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For those folks out there that just want to try it.. There is a 2lb sampler packet available.. :^)

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I believe Richard thinks a young gardener may be influenced by a get over tactic in gardening, and quit.. Anyone growing banana's should grow them well (hone your skills) before you seek short-term benefits (like spring recovery) of this product.. I don't think I'd use it more than once a year even though some people do.. I'm sure Richard makes his case as you can read below.. So you young Gardeners have your soil mix down, know when your plants can handle full sun, and when it gets hot as hell partial shade can do some good. Azomite doesn't replace a good 2-1-3 Fert.. augmented of course.. :^)

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I think azomite on bananas is a simple waste of money if it's ornamental bananas as it only aids in the quality of the fruit production. It might help a bit in overall growth, but the micronutrients provided in it are usually only beneficial if you have deficiencies of it in your soil already. For example if you are already giving your bananas a nice fertilizer, and it is still turning yellow or rotting, then I would give azomite a shot.

Some things such as root rot can be a result of things other than nutrient deficiencies such as drainage which can be amended by organic materials, or gypsum. calcium deficiency often results in sudden browning, or rot on new leaves.

Something like urea, or manure is definitely more bang for the buck. I would only recommend azomite as a supplement to the garden if you are growing stuff for food, and you want an edge in overall production, but it definitely doesn't replace the macro/ NPK nutrients.
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Some things such as root rot can be a result of things other than nutrient deficiencies such as drainage which can be amended by organic materials, or gypsum. calcium deficiency often results in sudden browning, or rot on new leaves.

Something like urea, or manure is definitely more bang for the buck. I would only recommend azomite as a supplement to the garden if you are growing stuff for food, and you want an edge in overall production, but it definitely doesn't replace the macro/ NPK nutrients.
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I can agree with what Richard said about if you plant is growing then adding supplements is not such much of an advantage. But lets add to that the proven facts about plant growth. If a plant is lacking in minerals it will only grow to the size that the plant has available minerals for .. Or in simpler terms, if a plant were to have a need for one mineral it stops functioning at that point and continues in other areas to complete it’s life cycle.
So his saying its not needed is very true if your soil is properly supplemented with NPK and some other natural supplement.. Perhaps compost, Cow Manure, Urea .. If your bananas are growing like a weed then no need to toss money into the ground needlessly..
Also if you have a garden with several different types of plants growing then adding one pound per 10 feet of the garden area is a great idea, It answers the question as to “ Does it need it? ” Ya only need do it once per year . Its very cheap and you will have that possibility completely taken out of the picture.. Yes you can go to bed and sleep knowing its all there. Then add you NPK as needed.
An added note here about this type of product.. It’s a regional thing.. Haaa I mean if you live in Florida and are growing in sand. Get your sand tested Stop being so cheap! TEST IT.. It will come back to you with a letter of doom and gloom .. Sand needs help.. And for all you guys living in areas with decent soil ya have no idea how hard it can be to grow a tomato in sand.. So we look to improve our soil differently than others. Bananas need good soil.
I totally agree with Richard .. Use NPK and other natural stuff as mentioned above.. I also agree with ME Asomite is a good supplement I like it
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It can be use to cleanse your body. I would not try this. LOL. What's next?! Cleansing with your compost!
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It can be use to cleanse your body. I would not try this. LOL. What's next?! Cleansing with your compost!
Hey Tony - you try it first and let us know how everything comes out. lol
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