Winter problems or something else????

chris_zx2 · 12-28-2015, 01:44 PM

Ok guys I have been getting help with my dwarf cavendish which I think I solved. Now my Orinoco, not sure if it is dwarf or not, is declining. It may just be normal winter issues or perhaps it's missing something. I have added some miracle grow fertilizers because it looks like it might be missing something but in a lot of these cases the symptoms are similar if not identical.
Also any ideas of if it is dwarf or full size orinoco?

chris_zx2 · 12-28-2015, 04:39 PM

just found these "larvae" in some of my pups at work. Are these fungus gnat larvae?

siege2050 · 12-29-2015, 04:58 AM

Pretty sure that is dwarf, Tall Orinoco have thinner pstems even when small but with the pstem sheaths separating I could be wrong. I have both Tall and Dwarf Orinoco, the orangish yellow color seems to be something seasonal when kept outdoors and it starts to get colder, it may have something to do with light reduction. In the fall mine always get lower leaves like that. They usually grow pretty well indoors, one thing to watch for is spider mites. Fungus gnats are transparent with dark insides, those look a little thicker but could be one of the other stages they go through when they transform into adults. I store mine under my house when they are mature enough, with no roots, no leaves, and no light, or water for 6 months till spring and they are quite tough.

chris_zx2 · 12-29-2015, 03:08 PM

I had it in a pot outside for the end of summer here (canada) and it has been inside for two months. I'm pretty sure I had spider mites but I sprayed with pesticides and cleaned the leaves with dishsoap and water.
I don't have enough patience unfortunately and need to just give the plant time.

geissene · 01-27-2016, 01:37 PM

I have a 2 foot tall Dwarf Orinoco that is doing the same thing with yellowing leaves. All of the leaves on mine are getting yellow on the edges (the lower leaves look worse). It is in my basement which now has a temperature of 58 degrees F and I do use a grow light on for 8 hrs a day.

Across the baseement floor and in a dark corner, I have a 6' tall mother plant which is dormant.

I'm hoping that something lasts untill spring.

Erik G

North Wales, PA

chris_zx2 · 01-27-2016, 07:36 PM

I had to cut mine down. I repotting in fast drain soil mix and just waiting for the corm to pop out a leaf...

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geissene Location: Pennsylvania Zone: 6 Name: Erik Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 489 BananaBucks : 99,084 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 301 Times Was Thanked 983 Times in 317 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 16 Times	Re: Winter problems or something else???? I have a 2 foot tall Dwarf Orinoco that is doing the same thing with yellowing leaves. All of the leaves on mine are getting yellow on the edges (the lower leaves look worse). It is in my basement which now has a temperature of 58 degrees F and I do use a grow light on for 8 hrs a day. Across the baseement floor and in a dark corner, I have a 6' tall mother plant which is dormant. I'm hoping that something lasts untill spring. Erik G North Wales, PA

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chris_zx2 Sub Zero Tropical Keeper Location: Pierrefonds, Quebec Find me on the map! Zone: 5 Name: Chris Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 139 BananaBucks : 16,044 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 85 Times Was Thanked 142 Times in 82 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 8 Times	Re: Winter problems or something else???? I had to cut mine down. I repotting in fast drain soil mix and just waiting for the corm to pop out a leaf... __________________ --Chris So far: Dwarf Cavendish -- Basjoo -- Bunch of Truly Tiny

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