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I am in zone 7 and would like to overwinter in containers for early May planting.

Since I plan to leave most plants in ground year round, basjoo would seem to be a logical choice.

Most plants I see are in 4 inch pots and maybe 6-12 inches tall.
My first year goal would be to buy 4 or 5 of these "sometime" this fall/winter, and have sturdy plants 2-3 feet tall by May 1st.

1) Assuming this is doable, working backward when would I want to receive these pups?

2) Building on that, I assume I move to larger container only after roots have filled the container.

3) Do I cut leaves in half over winter, and do I fertilize?

Any thoughts are appreciated, edge.
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would buy now. first you want to get these plants into larger pots so you can get some kind of root system going and build your corms with energy. you plants will go dormant inside to a point.
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If they are going to go dormant, than can I just put 4-5 plants in one larger pot?
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If they are going to go dormant, than can I just put 4-5 plants in one larger pot?
dormant depends on light, temperature, humidity and other factors. all in one pot with some growth will cause problems next spring. separate pots.

ideally if you create the right conditions you will have growth all winter long.
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Zone 7 in the east is totally different from zone 7 in the west, or zone 7 in other places so would be helpful to have a more specific location.
In zone 7 Virginia (or even 6 b) we are digging pups now and putting in pots for growing on in winter, as well as in ground (basjoo to be left, other musa to be dug at first frost and stored as corms or pstems - p stems for the first time as we have always simply stored the corms), so would see no reason not to buy and do the same.
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... so would be helpful to have a more specific location.
In zone 7 Virginia (or even 6 b) we are digging pups now and putting in pots for growing on in winter,....
Thanks, Central NJ zone 7.

The pups you let grow over winter, what are their conditions ( light, heat, etc.)
and how much growth do you expect before spring?

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Thanks, Central NJ zone 7.

The pups you let grow over winter, what are their conditions ( light, heat, etc.)
and how much growth do you expect before spring?

thanks,edge.
you tube has many good videos on what you are asking. also bananas in general.
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Thanks, Central NJ zone 7.

The pups you let grow over winter, what are their conditions ( light, heat, etc.)
and how much growth do you expect before spring?

thanks,edge.
Varies from nothing to speak of to lots. Cool greenhse, very little, the high temp (min 68 or so night, day into the 80's-90's, almost what one gets outside in summer.
To generalise (VERY dangerous) heat is the big factor assuming (ass you and me) good light (and of course proper soil, fert, water, bug control).
Light is a tough one - some comments on this site, but to my knowledge little down in truly scientific terms of mols per, etc. and same goes for color for MUSA. Lots for plants in general, but depending on what one is growing, depends on light required, not to mention if one wants to regulate height, flowering, etc. Takes an expert :-) (not me). SO we just go with what nature provides along with all spectrum white to extend day length as days shorten adding from 1 to 4 hrs max in Dec..
Others are far more knowledgeable than me in this group - hopefully they can point one in the right direction for published material which might be relevant.
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I am in zone 7 and would like to overwinter in containers for early May planting.

Since I plan to leave most plants in ground year round, basjoo would seem to be a logical choice.

Most plants I see are in 4 inch pots and maybe 6-12 inches tall.
My first year goal would be to buy 4 or 5 of these "sometime" this fall/winter, and have sturdy plants 2-3 feet tall by May 1st.

1) Assuming this is doable, working backward when would I want to receive these pups?

2) Building on that, I assume I move to larger container only after roots have filled the container.

3) Do I cut leaves in half over winter, and do I fertilize?

Any thoughts are appreciated, edge.
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Now..
If you purchase now you must have the means to keep the beasts alive over the winter.... this is a horticultural nightmare..


For me .....I would wait till early spring


But there are many youtube videos which can coach you .

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If you purchase now you must have the means to keep the beasts alive over the winter.... this is a horticultural nightmare..
I hear you. tough enough 2 to 3 months couldn't phathom 6.

how did your dwarf reds winter?
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I hear you. tough enough 2 to 3 months couldn't phathom 6.

how did your dwarf reds winter?
Up here we crush....

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Thanks, if we go back to the original question, when to buy to give a head start to the season.

I am not looking for extra work, just a jumpstart on growth to throw in the ground when the groung temps warm up May 1.
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might as well buy it now
the tiny basjoo i separated last fall is not big enough to be left in the ground and mulched for the winter yet..i will bring it inside this fall
that is the goal i guess?
start 2-3' in the spring so it gets big enough to make it through the successive winters outdoors?

its either extra work and cost of lights and electricity
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buy 2-3 foot plants in the spring
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25.99 a plant.......plus ship.....

Plants are a Beast......
was just curious. mine don't like like draught and the corms started easy in the pot not like others. thought they might overwinter a little easier.

glad yours are doing well, they definitely are beasts. love em.
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