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imclueless17 08-12-2010 09:53 PM

Pot size for sdc?
 
Hi I was thinking of getting a SDC from sandy and I wanted to know a good pot size for the little fella. :nanadrink:

Bob 08-14-2010 06:29 AM

Re: Pot size for sdc?
 
Great choice for a container plant. I'm trying to get one to flower now in a 25 gallon pot and it seems healthy and lots of pups. You could probably go even smaller and I've seen a picture here last year of one bearing a bunch of fruit that looked to be on a ten gallon or maybe a bit smaller though all the pups were removed.

Dalmatiansoap 08-14-2010 07:32 AM

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I have it in 60l pot and its doing pretty good.
Just feed it well and dont warry:ha:
:woohoonaner:

Jack Daw 08-15-2010 10:45 AM

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55L, wide pot is sufficient.

Randy4ut 08-15-2010 12:09 PM

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If you are planning on overwintering it inside, pot it in the smallest size it will fit in and bump it up as it grows! This way you will not be as likely to overwater it in throughout the winter! I had problem with too much moisture in winter even though I felt I was barely watering, until I started keeping them in the smallest container I could get them in. This insures that all excess water is quickly drained off the corm.

sandy0225 08-15-2010 01:05 PM

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I'd say when you receive one in a 3.5" pot from me, put it in a one gallon to start. Then gradually bump it up to a 2 gallon, etc. They are easy to overwater if you over pot them. If you want to keep it outside, then make sure you use a heavy pot like a ceramic one, etc while they are small. That way it doesn't blow over. When they get to be a mini mat in a pot, like mine, you can pot them up bigger.


this one is still only up to my chin and I'm 5'3. And that includes the pot height. Short little fellows! The stump in the front of the picture is the stalk that bloomed last year.

LilRaverBoi 08-18-2010 01:34 PM

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Mine started as a pup in a 7 gallon and has since been transplanted into a 25 gallon. It seems pretty happy in that, but I'd go even larger if I had a way to move it inside again once it was in a bigger pot (the 25 BARELY fits through the door LOL).

tastyratz 08-18-2010 08:10 PM

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What do you do in a situation like that? If you have a nanner you want to overwinter indoors but you just don't have the room to pot it up can you prevent it from becoming rootbound? After it fills a big pot do you just shake it down and sever a chunk of root out once a year, etc? I was curious about that.

I don't think I could carry beyond a 25 gallon downstairs into my basement each winter but would love to maybe grow beyond my zone...

LilRaverBoi 08-18-2010 09:28 PM

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Yeah, that's a tricky situation. I stick with pots that are manageable for myself to transport in/out as necessary. If you plant in the ground during the summer and repot in fall, you can usually get plants into a manageable pot without any trouble. This seems (at least in my experience) to be a good way to keep the root system managed, pot size manageable and generally make temperate banana cultivation most effective.

frankthetank 08-20-2010 10:39 PM

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25 gallon pot? That seems huge... I would think a 15 gallon should be sufficient for a good size SDC...


imclueless17 08-21-2010 09:58 AM

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Well I ordered mine last night and i decided I am going to put it in one of those half wine barrel's I had laying around. :woohoonaner:

LilRaverBoi 08-21-2010 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frankthetank (Post 139151)
25 gallon pot? That seems huge... I would think a 15 gallon should be sufficient for a good size SDC...

25 gallon may seem huge, but it really isn't too big for an SDC. Mine is probably already getting kinda rootbound and it's not even mature, yet. And to be honest, 25 gallon pots aren't much bigger than the pot on the L of the pic you posted....maybe a little shorter and a bit wider (and the width is more important for bananas than depth).

Could an SDC survive and/or bloom in a pot smaller than 25 gallons? Absolutely. Will it provide optimal growth and the best conditions for the plant? Absolutely not. That is the main issue here.

Here is my SDC in a 25 gallon:


Sorry, it's kinda difficult with the given space to get a decent pic of the plant AND the pot, but you get the idea. It's very happy in that pot....total height in the pot is around 7' tall.

Randy4ut 08-21-2010 05:26 PM

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Brian, hang on a second... I don't think the point is 25 gallon being too big for moving around, but to try and keep from overwatering during the winter...
One other thing...

You stated, "Sorry, it's kinda difficult with the given space to get a decent pic of the plant AND the pot, but you get the idea. It's very happy in that pot....total height in the pot is around 7' tall." I did not realize a SDC would grow 7' tall!!! You sure you know what kind of banana you have? Could it be a DC and not a SDC? May want to make sure what you have before you give advice as this might question your credibility!!! Sorry, don't mean to call you out on it, Brian, but I had never heard of a SDC being 7', or even 6'....

imclueless17 08-21-2010 07:46 PM

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Well I can see it is about 7 ft right now. 1.5 ft.(Pot height) + 2 ft. (new leaf) = 3.5 ft for the extras. 7 - 3.5 is about 3.5 ft or 4 ft. of p-stem and a few leaves. =) Which is completely within the lines of sdc height.

Randy4ut 08-21-2010 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imclueless17 (Post 139237)
Well I can see it is about 7 ft right now. 1.5 ft.(Pot height) + 2 ft. (new leaf) = 3.5 ft for the extras. 7 - 3.5 is about 3.5 ft or 4 ft. of p-stem and a few leaves. =) Which is completely within the lines of sdc height.


....total height in the pot is around 7' tall
Taken this to mean from soil line to top of leaf... Most folks don't include pot height when describing their plants since pots are so variable...
You may want to do some more research on SDC....:03:

imclueless17 08-21-2010 08:09 PM

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Well still the leaf is another 2 ft or so.....7-2=5

Randy4ut 08-21-2010 08:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imclueless17 (Post 139240)
Well still the leaf is another 2 ft or so.....7-2=5


Still not sure where you are getting your information. Most SDC I have seen and read descrictions about are maxed out overall height of 4-5'. Regardless, I suppose this thread pertains to pot size and not banana identification so I will not keep on with this and sorry we will just have to disagree...:bananas_b

imclueless17 08-21-2010 08:23 PM

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That's fine and no hard feelings it was a stupid argument anyway. =)

LilRaverBoi 08-22-2010 02:11 AM

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Woah woah woah!!! Please, no arguments here. It definitely IS an SDC. When I say 'total height in the pot is around 7' tall' I mean EXACTLY that.....the total height IN THE POT (in the pot, WITH the pot...TOTAL height) is around 7'. You can use the doorway in the background as a good size reference (clearly the plant is not 7' itself).

This post pretty much sums up exactly how I was gonna respond:
Quote:

Originally Posted by imclueless17 (Post 139237)
Well I can see it is about 7 ft right now. 1.5 ft.(Pot height) + 2 ft. (new leaf) = 3.5 ft for the extras. 7 - 3.5 is about 3.5 ft or 4 ft. of p-stem and a few leaves. =) Which is completely within the lines of sdc height.

As far as watering in the winter, this really depends on the plant. You certainly do not want to be in a 25 gallon pot if the plant is small. But if you have a mature plant, that size is perfectly suitable. I understand that perspective, perfectly.

I do not mean to be rude, but please do not question my credibility. I'm not an expert on all species, by any means (and will be the first to call myself out), but I'm definitely not a noob by any regard, either.

PS....please read the last statement of my signature.

sandy0225 08-26-2010 06:25 PM

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Your sdc "mini" won't get to be 7 feet tall. Mine is only like 4 feet tall and it's already bloomed once. The largest pups are also like 4 feet tall. I'm fully expecting another bloom this fall on the pup that is the biggest. I don't think the "mini" ever gets to be over 5 feet. Maybe someone else that has the mini can chime in on this though.

Randy4ut 08-26-2010 08:49 PM

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Here is one of my SDC that was grown out in the garden last summer. As everyone knows, bananas grown in ground are much larger and faster growing than ones grown in pots. I am 6'4" for scale, as well as a five gallon bucket...

Judge for yourself....


imclueless17 08-26-2010 08:57 PM

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W0W that's a beautiful plant!

Randy4ut 08-27-2010 05:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imclueless17 (Post 139746)
W0W that's a beautiful plant!

Thanks... I am guessing that you were not around last fall when I had them up for adoption!!! LOL I had several that I sold off and kept one for myself. Here is what they looked like when I posted them for sale.


imclueless17 08-27-2010 08:59 AM

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Holy Cow those are huge! I wish I was here when those were for sale.

LilRaverBoi 08-27-2010 11:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sandy0225 (Post 139732)
Your sdc "mini" won't get to be 7 feet tall. Mine is only like 4 feet tall and it's already bloomed once. The largest pups are also like 4 feet tall. I'm fully expecting another bloom this fall on the pup that is the biggest. I don't think the "mini" ever gets to be over 5 feet. Maybe someone else that has the mini can chime in on this though.

Correct me if I'm wrong (or misinterpreting this), but isn't super 'mini' dwarf cavendish the same as super dwarf cavendish? When I bought mine, I'm almost positive it said it was super 'mini' dwarf cavendish. It currently has 3.5' of pstem. Not sure the full height, but in the pot, with leaf height, it's approx. 7' total....so probably around 5.5' total height of the plant it self from the soil-line.


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