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Old 05-05-2009, 11:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Good news/bad news (pics below).
Good - I got the smart pots on Friday. Thanked them for shipping so fast!!!
They came folded up in a small box.
Sunday, set one up on north side of Mike's house (for shade) on 3/4 inch plywood. Filled bottom of pot about 6-7 inches of soil mix & watered it down.
Moved sofa...tipped nana over on tarp & took it out of 30 gal pot. Shoved dolly under tarp holding rootball - wrapped it & carted it out. Took 3 of us.
Cut pup off & put it in the old 30 gal pot.
Seemed to take forever to fill the damned thing w/ potting mix after the 'boys' lifted & set it in pot.
It was very windy Sunday & it wanted to tip over. I put 4 sticks of 8ft bamboo inside edge of pot & tied around it at top of stem. Then we tied rope to that to inside the garage to help support it.
The afternoon sun snuck up on it so I put a sheet over it but the wind kept blowing it off.
Here's a pic right after I "rigged" her up Sun. w/ pup in old 30 gal pot.

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Taken noon today (Tues). Thank God it is overcast, but talk about DROOPY:

Poor thing is suffering major transplant shock! The leaves are not burnt (white spots) but only 3 of 12 are not folded w/ a crease.
That's the BAD news.
It is embarrassing to have this in front where all can see it LOL.
I unplugged the garage door opener so it can't close on the rope & take the plant down.
We are going to put a few 9-10 ft support sticks in pot to hold lite blankets over it when frost comes & the pup can go inside garage, & hopefully mamma will be stable enough to untie the ropes so we can close the garage door.
This is the hardest time of year for my plants. Take them out to 'acclimate' them & be ready to rush them inside case of frost. This one we can't just put it back inside! That 65 gal pot will be just too heavy to move back in & out again.
I'm just happy for clouds & rain next couple days VS wind & hot sun.
Finger crossed....wish me luck!
As for the fabric pot....when I watered, it not only came out the bottom but all around the sides of pot. They said to use a soil mix that is heavier, like a clay soil, to hold more water. The fabric will not hold as much moisture in as the plastic will. They said it is self pruning & will never get rootbound, as when the roots grow out, they will die off trying to grow out of sides.
I will say that once you plant in these, don't plan on moving them! Unless you put the pot on plywood & move it on there.
I'll take pics in a week or 2.
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Here's a pic of the other pot set up on back deck facing south. This one looks better as I wasn't rushed to fill it. The sides are more strait. As you fill the pot, you gotta pull up the sides from the bottom seem. This is made out of something similar to the weed barrier fabric but thicker - more like industrial strength.
I plan on 1 tomato, chives, basil, oregano, & whatever I think of to plant there since it is right outside the kitchen area. It is there now & if I wish to move it --- TOO BAD. Geeze, it took a lot of soil to fill it to that point! 65 gal is a lot!
So...if I don't want to look at nanna in front, I can always come out to back deck & look at plants there LOL
BTW, That is a creek just beyond the grass line.
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Sorry to see the folded leaves, Patty.

Was it very root-bound when you removed it from the pot? Big plants I've dealt with didn't have much soil to hold onto water because of being so root-bound so they required lots of frequent watering. When my big Ae Ae would have leaves fold I found that soaking it helped a lot. Just make sure the roots are getting a lot of water but focusing your watering into the center of the pot since it will be a while before the roots expand out into the new soil.

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Thank you, thank you Harvey. Makes me feel better.
It had roots growing around the sides but not too bad. Still had soil to grow on .. I've seen much worse. Too busy to think of taking a pic then.
It is transplant shock big time. Sunday was a bad day I guess but we had to get it out & who knows what the weather is gonna be?
I made a point to make water go into center of plant -- you are thinking same.
I think it will come back but this sure slowed it down. It may take a couple weeks to get a new leaf. I have faith.
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I wonder if something like "cloudcover" spray would help reduce water loss from leaves and be helpful at this point. Just thinking out loud....

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We're rooting for ya Patty! I bet the big guy bounces back. I think you get the idea that it will take a few weeks to recover so all you can do is remain calm and not be tempted to over water or fertilize too soon. I know I would. Keep us posted.
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Thank you, thank you Harvey. Makes me feel better.
It had roots growing around the sides but not too bad. Still had soil to grow on .. I've seen much worse. Too busy to think of taking a pic then.
It is transplant shock big time. Sunday was a bad day I guess but we had to get it out & who knows what the weather is gonna be?
I made a point to make water go into center of plant -- you are thinking same.
I think it will come back but this sure slowed it down. It may take a couple weeks to get a new leaf. I have faith.
Oi, take it easy Patty! I hate to hear of the death of 'naner plant owner thru stress of a stressed 'naner plant.....
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Today the newest & last leaf stem creased & folded over. It looks terrible. I cut off 3 or 4 lower leaves that turned brown. My question now is -- should I cut all the leaves off? I always heard to leave them on unless they turn brown. It is just TOO heavy to cart into garage, even on the dolly.
Because of the 40 ish temps at night, did it go dormant? If it did, should I cut the leaves off as I would do to force dormancy in fall?
Would that give more energy to the plant?
All I can do is put longer sticks inside pot to hold up a banket over it if frost comes.
I also decided to NOT put it in ground. The pot is big enough for the roots for now. I think we will just move it to where it was last summer & set it on the ground there (with skid loader). It went thru enough transplant shock for now.
Any advice about the leaves would be great.
I covered the soil w/ tarp so rain last night wouldn't go in. It has enough water in it.
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Patty, I wouldn't cut off the leaves. I have tied up folded eaves by using some tie tape just to help out temporarily until more leaves came along, though that was in my greenhouse without wind. I don't think your plant would be dormant. Mine was growing with temps colder than that, though slowly. I don't know what's going on.
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I say cut off enough stem to move it into your garage ASAP. You're going to have 41F tomorrow night and that is absolutely low enough for it to do dormant or almost dormant.

Put it in the garage! Amount of trunk doesn't matter as much as keeping it growing!
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Thanks Taylor, but you are scaring me LOL.
I'm afraid to cut it cuz there might be a flower or a flag leaf nearby & I don't want to cut into that.
2) It is just too big (33" wide) & heavy to move it on dolly. The pot must weigh 300 or more lbs ( now that it rained the other night) & plant itself is about 150 lbs. I untied & took the dolly off.
Geeze, I just checked my forecast & it is low to mid 40's at nite all week! And, 50's to 60's highs.
I think I'm going to be sick...barf. All I can do is maybe prop up that last leaf (per Harvey, & to let new leaf come thru easier) & cover it every night to keep it warmer.
I'm soooo mad... maybe I shoulda left it in the house for one more week. But, it woulda been stressed from that!
I think you should all come over (yeah you Tog, Beth & Cassie too) & we can all shake up some beer to spray on it... ahhh, medicine. I'll grill some Wisconsin brats &/or have a fish boil (originated here in Door County). Justj will help me...& don't forget to bring a jacket! Bon fire later.
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:53 PM   #32 (permalink)
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In my opinion, there is not much chance an Ice Cream will go dormant with lows of 41 and highs of 50-60. It was cooler than that back in March when my in-ground Ice Cream started pushing out its first new leaf of the year.
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[quote=Patty in Wisc;74757
I think you should all come over (yeah you Tog, Beth & Cassie too) & we can all shake up some beer to spray on it... ahhh, medicine. I'll grill some Wisconsin brats &/or have a fish boil (originated here in Door County). Justj will help me...& don't forget to bring a jacket! Bon fire later.
oops, I'm railroading my own thread
More help please.[/QUOTE]

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Ante, of course you are welcome!! And, I'll make the potitza (sp) LOL.
BTW, my grandparents grew up about 230 miles away from you in Ljubljana, Slovenia (just found out name).
All I can do is keep mamma IC warm & dry & hope for a new leaf.
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wow! your motivated to get naners!! good to hear!!! i wish i had an icecream -i use to but it died
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I got an Idea for you Patty, since you are good with your hands....Build a base to go around your big IC. like a raised bed box only make it in 2 halves and have locking clips on the side so you can easily remove and store it. Make it 6 inches taller and about 6 inches wider and fill in with mulch or compost to help keep it warm and look even more presentable! Or as presentable as it can till it fills back out.

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Sounds like more work LOL
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you could bye a big whiskey barrel? big enough?
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I am no expert with bananas, as the people here are. But I am very good with plants in general. When I have a plant that does this, I use a clay pot to place it in. Size of clay pot determined by the plant of course. Then I dig a hole in the earth where the plant will be happiest, and to the size of the pot. Sinking it into the ground, (The plant inside clay pot) and filling in around, so the plant 'thinks' it is in mother earth, if I may be poetic about this; seems to make my plants happier. You are in colder climate than the plant likes, so I understand reason for potting. But this really does help my plants that are even more tropical than my own zone to perk up and thrive.

In fall, it may be a challenge to remove the pot, but I do it when necessary. And at this time of year, perfect to attempt this. I also always use the plant hormone 'superthrive' when transplanting any plant, and when making cuttings or seedlings. That stuff is truly awesome!

No matter what you end up doing, I just thought I'd let you know what works for me, and I wish you the best of luck with the banana.
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Good thoughts Gino, should work on most plants, but, when moving a 300# monster in and out of a hole might prove difficult as you said. In fact, I may just go get a clay pot for my Dwarf Cav and do like you said this weekend.

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