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Patty in Wisc · 06-19-2009, 05:37 PM

Thank you Gabe. The pot I mentioned is ACTUAL 30 gal. I have nursery pots that they called 5 gal pots & have #5 printed on them (some) but they don't hold 5 gal. I also have plants in 5 gal buckets & those are actual 5 gal. It can be very confusing - as said at GW from your link. Seems like 5 or 10 gal nursery pots can be different at different nurseries. I have a 60 gal smart pot (fabric) but I will give my friend dimensions & let him figure the actual gallons it holds. I'll bet that european litre pots are different than our litre pots too. In Canada, 5 gallons (Imperial) is really same as our 6 gallons. Go figure!

Dalmatiansoap · 06-19-2009, 05:42 PM

U see now why I was so confused?

Patty in Wisc · 06-19-2009, 05:56 PM

I sure do!!

chong · 06-20-2009, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe15

Let me just say that before start getting too riled up here, US pot sizes are non-standard, and just because something is sold as a certain volume, does not mean it actually is that volume. You may be able to calculate what the actual volume of something is, but that does not mean that it will be sold under that size, not to mention that it all varies by manufacturer.

Check out this link for a bit more info Understanding Container Sizes and Their Volumes - Container Gardening Forum - GardenWeb

The attachment below an example that would reinforce what Gabe and Richard have stated about manufacturer size labeling. This is a page from the catalog of my aggie product supplier here in WA State. As an example, there are two models that are both labeled No. 25: (a)“No. 25-Grip Lip” and (b)“No. 25 Squat-Grip Lip”. Notice that (a) has a listed capacity of 27.58 Gal., while (b) is listed as 20.50 Gal. There are other similarly numbered pots with varying dimensions, but I just happen to have several of this particular size in my stock.

(a) is listed as 22 ¾” x 18”. Calculating for volume based on these dimensions, without regard to taper, the resulting volume is 31.675 Gal. If we factor in the 2-inch taper (I measured the top diameter to be 23” and the bottom diameter is 19”), the resulting volume will be 26.99 Gal.

The (b) version is listed as 22 ¾” x 13 ¹⁄8”. Calculating for volume based on these dimensions, without regard to taper, the resulting volume is 23.096 Gal. If we factor in the taper, the resulting volume will be even lower, 19.446 Gal.

Considering that, as Gabe pointed out, different manufacturers will have different labeling standards, this further adds to the confusion. In Patty’s example, “my pot as 23 x17high” (without taper), will calculate to 30.576 Gal. Then for her ‘55 gal rain barrel - drum is 22" across & 37" high’, using those dimensions, the actual volume calculates to 60.887 Gal.

Note: The above calculations are based on the following factors –
1. 1 Gallon is equal to 231 cubic inches
2. The walls of the containers are smooth and straight.
3. Actual soil volume calculated is from base to brim of the container.
4. Dimensions are measured from the interior.

alexizhere19 · 06-20-2009, 05:15 PM

This has become really interesting didn't expect it but info we all can use in the future. I would like to thank everyone who has helped. I am not good with math so never bothered to calculate the dimensions.

Thanks

alex

Patty in Wisc · 06-21-2009, 11:15 PM

quote from Chong: "rain barrel - drum is 22" across & 37" high’, using those dimensions, the actual volume calculates to 60.887 Gal."
Thanks Chong, that sounds right... I forgot to say it is slightly tapered at top & bottom to make it 55 gal's.

bigdog · 06-22-2009, 10:51 AM

The ANLA helped enact a law several years ago that basically says if you say you are selling a "one gallon" nursery stock plant, the container must be one gallon. This law went into effect in 2005.

The ANLA is making a push now to standardize pot sizes, which would be a good thing, in my opinion. Imagine that...pots being the size that they are supposed to be! WOW! LOL!

Frank

Patty in Wisc · 06-23-2009, 01:39 PM

YEAY!

ewitte · 06-23-2009, 03:47 PM

So do they get on them if its OVER the rating though? Then again how fine is the line? What about .999999998 gal would they get on you for that?

Then again you could have a tiny little plant and mostly dirt so I'd rather have more plant and less dirt.

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