Indoor bananas 600W HPS, hydroponic media - Page 2

fergus banana · 07-27-2009, 07:52 AM

thats a very nice chart ohiosbest. very kewl

peace

fergus banana · 07-27-2009, 08:03 AM

chris,
i am running my bulb horizontally. i have a grip of plants that are getting the light, but i am really only concerned about 4 bananas getting the most out of the light. would 1 600W bulb run vertically provide better lighting for my plants than my current horizontal light setup?

Bob · 07-27-2009, 04:37 PM

There are light movers usually in 6 ft sections that willl move the fixture 6' every 20 minutes increasing your growing area. This has worked well for me.

Richard · 07-27-2009, 05:18 PM

Bob,

All the rail systems I've seen are more expensive than additional lamp(s), and at the same time deliver less light. This might be due to local prices. What kind of mover do you have?

Ohio'sBest · 07-27-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fergus banana

chris,
i am running my bulb horizontally. i have a grip of plants that are getting the light, but i am really only concerned about 4 bananas getting the most out of the light. would 1 600W bulb run vertically provide better lighting for my plants than my current horizontal light setup?

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fergus banana · 07-27-2009, 08:11 PM

thanks dude!
i will give it a try.

peace

Ohio'sBest · 07-28-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

What will they be growing?

Lettuce

51st state · 07-28-2009, 06:20 PM

I guess the technology already applied to other 'specialist' genera will equally well apply to musacea

expect a call from 5 O wanting to know why your electric bill is so high

'Steve McGarratt knows, you know'

fergus banana · 07-28-2009, 06:23 PM

yeah, those "other" specialists know their stuff!

;/

my power bill is only up 40 bucks running the 600 watter at 16 hrs.

peace and grow on!

Richard · 07-29-2009, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

What will they be growing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio'sBest

Lettuce

What is the target spectra and luminous power per square area?

sandy0225 · 07-29-2009, 06:19 AM

I have a 9 foot light rail brand mover, it was a factory refurb--and a 1000w mh fixture with a reflector, since it's wide open in the basement, the heat buildup is no problem. Since it's an unfinished basement, we just set up tiers of benches using blocks and 2x4's. I'm not having real issues with humidity since my plants are soil potted and we can just water them down there with the hose and fertilizer injector. I am liking the results really well. We can cover 8x20 with the one light (8wx20 long) putting plants that like less light to each end, bananas in the middle.
I don't know all the math and lumens and all that crap, but it works good!It's running my electric about $35 a month since they recently raised the rates.

Bananaman88 · 07-29-2009, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sandy0225

II don't know all the math and lumens and all that crap, but it works good!

I love that part of your quote!

fergus banana · 07-29-2009, 07:33 AM

1000W MH at 35 bucks a month? That is really cheap.

yeah, experience is the key to growing. all the technical details are just details once you got ur growin system and conditions down. the proof is in the growth.

peace and grow on

Ohio'sBest · 07-29-2009, 08:05 AM

Some utility companies offer less a kwh on off peak hours. Take advantage of them.

Richard · 07-29-2009, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fergus banana

yeah, experience is the key to growing. all the technical details are just details once you got ur growin system and conditions down. the proof is in the growth.

In my experience, it pays to do some research. There are a number of published papers and a few thesis' on optimal growth conditions for lettuces and other greens. You will find the details ... illuminating!

fergus banana · 07-29-2009, 08:50 AM

yeah, a little research does indeed help.

Illuminating...thats kewl!

Richard · 07-29-2009, 10:04 AM

There is a common saying among geologists that "a few summers' worth of field studies can save you a few hours of research in the library".

Ohio'sBest · 08-01-2009, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandy0225

I have a 9 foot light rail brand mover, it was a factory refurb--and a 1000w mh fixture with a reflector, since it's wide open in the basement, the heat buildup is no problem. Since it's an unfinished basement, we just set up tiers of benches using blocks and 2x4's. I'm not having real issues with humidity since my plants are soil potted and we can just water them down there with the hose and fertilizer injector. I am liking the results really well. We can cover 8x20 with the one light (8wx20 long) putting plants that like less light to each end, bananas in the middle.
I don't know all the math and lumens and all that crap, but it works good!It's running my electric about $35 a month since they recently raised the rates.

Sounds great Sandy. Why fix it if its not broken. I go by one simple rule.........KISS
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

You can run your humidity high, I run about 75%. If you start to get any mold issues, you can use a sulphur burner.

Richard · 08-01-2009, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio'sBest

I go by one simple rule.........KISS
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

LOL !

51st state · 08-01-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohio'sBest

You can run your humidity high, I run about 75%. If you start to get any mold issues, you can use a sulphur burner.

How are you controlling your humidity? I have a honeywell humidistat I bought but never got around to using, I was going to link it to my misting system via a solenoid valve, unless you have a simpler/better idea?

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