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If I wanted fruit from a raja puri growing in a pot how big would the pot have to be? How long would it take to fruit? Is there any special way of growing it I would need to know about?

On a completely unrelated subject, can I get pups in a container, would I get fewer pups, and I know this sounds random but I've never found out if you get pups before fruit or fruit before pups?

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You'll need a container 32 inches wide. Sixteen inches would be sufficient for depth, but since Raja Puri is a tall plant, I would go with 24 inches for stability. A round container would be fine -- actually this is a standard size in the nursery business. You should shop around for pots and perhaps wait until February. At the moment suppliers are still trying to get rid of higher-priced inventory that was manufactured when oil prices were high.
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I've love to know who makes (and sells) plastic containers that are 32 inches wide. I have one that's about 20 inches, but only 12" in depth. I've been trying to grow some bananas in standard 15 gal containers, but I've had poor luck, perhaps because they're only about 16-18 " wide.

Is the 32" width also good to use for preparing a hole fror in-ground planting?

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If I wanted fruit from a raja puri growing in a pot how big would the pot have to be? How long would it take to fruit? Is there any special way of growing it I would need to know about?

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I've love to know who makes (and sells) plastic containers that are 32 inches wide.
In the Los Angeles area:
Western Farm Service
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I have seen 32" pots at several local Home Depot. I believe they get them from McConkey Co., which is a wholesale only company.
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I have seen 32" pots at several local Home Depot.
The 32" by 18" high plastic? Not stocked in big-box stores in the San Diego area.
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Our friend John MacKenzie has his patented Jackpots up to 48" wide:
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The 32" by 18" high plastic? Not stocked in big-box stores in the San Diego area.
Actually, the ones that are on the shelves at HD here (in the Seattle area) are 30" dia. x 20" high. I'm sure that McConkey has a warehouse in the LA area, so there's no reason why you can't ask a local HD or Lowe's to check if they can get them for you. Wholesale price here is $84/case of 5. Expect to pay at least $24 to $30 each at retail level.

I just checked the local warehouse for McConkey in LA, they are at 12321 Western Avenue, Garden Grove, CA, (714) 894-0581, (714)891-0028.
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Wow, that's nuts. I'm thinking of the blow-mold black plastic that are one-tenth of that price.
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Wow, that's nuts. I'm thinking of the blow-mold black plastic that are one-tenth of that price.
I got news for you. Those are the black blow molded plastic pots. In the thinner version, the largest pot is 4 gallon size. For the large 30x20 containers, 2 years ago, I paid a little over $10 a piece for them at McConkey. When I got some from them 3 months ago, I paid $84 for 5 of them. It could be because of the cost of oil, and at that time, gas was hovering at $4.00/gallon.

If you know of a place where I can get them for 1/10th of that price, please let me know. It'd certainly be a big help for me, since I have to have my plants in containers so I can move them under cover for the winter.
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Western Farm has given me the least-expensive quote with availability in February. American Horticultural Supply and McConkey are still dumping expensive inventory from last year, but the new inventory is comparable to the Western Farm price. These are made from the black, thin, flexible material that does not crack or tear.
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Has anyone used "jackpots" ? I take they are made of a fabric and not plastic? How do they work as a deck planter for bananas or palms? I am having a very difficult time finding large "inexpensive" pots for growing bananas and palms any help would be appreciated.
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At a retail store the typical pots offered are rated by appearance.

The pots at an agricultural supply store are rated by price because the grower wants the least expensive pot to transport their plant to market.

The pots I have been referring to in this thread are thin and flexible. You can drive a truck over these pots and then beat them back into shape with no loss of capacity or strength.
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Do they sell retail or only wholesale? I am needing 10 for bananas. I could also use a few for palm trees. Living in zone 6 everybody thinks I'm crazy But I am wanting to move bananas around between deck and maybe a few in the landscape. I will bring them inside in winter.
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The JackPots are made from fabric and you can put them on a deck, use them just like any other pot. They are breathable though and will collapse when empty.
They sell retail, just give John a call or an email to order. Contact info is on their site.
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Sliding them around might be a different experience vs sliding around a plastic pot. Since you mentioned you plan to move them around for the seasons. Ask John what he things about dragging around a full one. He uses them there, he has some awesome papaya installation there at his nursery/farmers market using these and they are bearing fruit like there is no tomorrow. They are about the size you are looking for. I couldn't imagine trying to move those things, they are big, heavy, and soft.
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I will give him a call. I was thinking of using a 2-wheeler. I wouldn't be moving them all the time but I do have to consider ease of movemment.
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An bellman's hand truck with the long tongue would probably work but maybe not the short tongue dolly version. Getting it onto it might be somewhat hard. Putting it on plywood before filling it with soil might help with all that though. I'm sure you will figure it out though..
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You are in southern Illinois where agricultural suppliers should be easy to locate. Call your local farm bureau or check the yellow pages learn who the vendors are and give them a call. You will likely have to physically go to the dealer to get the product: very few agricultural outfits have a need for internet business.
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