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paulorph 02-11-2012 12:15 PM

Container banana soil.
 
Just wondered if there is a thread on good homemade banana soil. I searched but could not find. If not why not start one here. Please post your recipies,
Paulo

sunfish 02-11-2012 01:28 PM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
http://www.bananas.org/f312/potting-...highlight=soil

Info:Soil - Bananas Wiki

nullzero 02-13-2012 06:33 PM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
A good cheap mix that works good for me is;

5 parts pine bark (make sure its the smaller particles)
1 part peat moss
1 part perlite
a little compost
dash of lime

paulorph 02-13-2012 07:49 PM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Thanks guys. Just wanted to see what people did to "homebrew" their soil. When I mean homebrew, it can be with a potting soil with your own special ingredients. Or totally from scratch. I do this with BBQ sauce myself lol. Thanks again,
Paulo

Gabe15 02-14-2012 02:02 AM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
I would avoid using pine bark or anything woody. As it breaks down, it will take away nitrogen which would otherwise go to the plant, so you will have to over fertilize to compensate. Since bananas are heavy feeders, it is tempting to feed a lot with sythetic fertilizers, but in a containerized situation they can easily accumulate and cause more problems than they are solving. For this reason, it is best to mix in most of the fertilizer ahead of time, and you can meet most of the nutrient requirements with a healthy portion of compost. You can also choose to mix in some slow release fertilizer too.


For long term growth in pots, I would use something like:

1/3 perlite
1/3 compost
1/3 peat or coconut coir

nullzero 02-14-2012 02:14 AM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe15 (Post 187354)
I would avoid using pine bark or anything woody. As it breaks down, it will take away nitrogen which would otherwise go to the plant, so you will have to over fertilize to compensate. Since bananas are heavy feeders, it is tempting to feed a lot with sythetic fertilizers, but in a containerized situation they can easily accumulate and cause more problems than they are solving. For this reason, it is best to mix in most of the fertilizer ahead of time, and you can meet most of the nutrient requirements with a healthy portion of compost. You can also choose to mix in some slow release fertilizer too.


For long term growth in pots, I would use something like:

1/3 perlite
1/3 compost
1/3 peat or coconut coir

I know what you mean, its better to use composted pine bark. However that nitrogen will become available again when it breaks down. I have not noticed any adverse effects using this mix on all my plants. I just compensate with fish emulsion fertilizer schedule and have been using kelp foliar sprays as well. Fruited bananas in containers with this mix, the mix works to counter the high PH water we have here in SoCal.

Island Brah 07-05-2016 08:47 AM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe15 (Post 187354)
I would avoid using pine bark or anything woody. As it breaks down, it will take away nitrogen which would otherwise go to the plant, so you will have to over fertilize to compensate. Since bananas are heavy feeders, it is tempting to feed a lot with sythetic fertilizers, but in a containerized situation they can easily accumulate and cause more problems than they are solving. For this reason, it is best to mix in most of the fertilizer ahead of time, and you can meet most of the nutrient requirements with a healthy portion of compost. You can also choose to mix in some slow release fertilizer too.


For long term growth in pots, I would use something like:

1/3 perlite
1/3 compost
1/3 peat or coconut coir

Gabe15, you always have the most straight forward advice which does not leave me more confused lol. Thanks! I transplanted my first crop of Basjoo this year from a a friend's property. They are young and about 4-5 feet tall now. They just started to have pups of their own break through the soil and I was thinking about putting them indoor over the winter to maximize growth.

Questions:

Will this soil recipe work for indoor and outdoor potted bananas?

Will this soil recipe be best for all types of banana trees?

I have 0.5 - 0.5 - 0.5 Black Kow(composted manure), can I use this as the 1/3 compost you advised or do I need to use straight compost?

Do you recommend gravel or coarse sand at the bottom of the pot?

Do you have experience with palm and cactus mix?

Sorry for all the questions! Thanks!!

Snarkie 07-13-2016 11:31 AM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
I use dirt, ashes with a lot of charcoal still intact, sawdust and Stall-Dri to keep it easily drainable.

Alicia 07-19-2016 01:13 AM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
I have read a 'tea' made from chicken manure and wood ash is good.
With a good supply of rabbit 'leftovers' left to compost, a Great atteactant for earth worms, I use to top dress plants and re-pot various veggies and fruit trees.
Are eggshells bad for bananas?

Zombie Dave 11-05-2016 06:03 PM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Is cow manure/w compost any good for these?

Zombie Dave 11-05-2016 06:05 PM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 187233)

Reading this now.

eharriett 11-08-2016 08:43 PM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
To add to this: I wanted to throw in my 2 cents on fertilizer. The Going Bananas site has some 6-2-12 fertilizer that they won't ship, I had not been able to find it locally (in Ohio). I was FINALLY able to find some I could order from Stokes Tropicals. The stuff works great. Added it to my soil and my GM eats it up.

Island Brah 11-21-2016 09:35 AM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombie Dave (Post 299822)
Is cow manure/w compost any good for these?

1/3 perlite
1/3 composted cow manure
1/3 peat moss

This is what I use and mine LOVE it and pops a new leaf weekly.

Snarkie 11-21-2016 09:52 AM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alicia (Post 296355)
I have read a 'tea' made from chicken manure and wood ash is good.
With a good supply of rabbit 'leftovers' left to compost, a Great atteactant for earth worms, I use to top dress plants and re-pot various veggies and fruit trees.
Are eggshells bad for bananas?

Egg shells are pretty much calcium sheets in a funny shape. It's no different than adding a little lime to the mix. Just dry them first and pulverize.

Bearskin10 02-02-2017 03:57 PM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe15 (Post 187354)
I would avoid using pine bark or anything woody. As it breaks down, it will take away nitrogen which would otherwise go to the plant, so you will have to over fertilize to compensate. Since bananas are heavy feeders, it is tempting to feed a lot with sythetic fertilizers, but in a containerized situation they can easily accumulate and cause more problems than they are solving. For this reason, it is best to mix in most of the fertilizer ahead of time, and you can meet most of the nutrient requirements with a healthy portion of compost. You can also choose to mix in some slow release fertilizer too.


For long term growth in pots, I would use something like:

1/3 perlite
1/3 compost
1/3 peat or coconut coir

Just got my first 2 Banana plants (Gros Michel and Blue Java) from Green Earth today and used your soil mix will see how they do.....

Thanks Greg

Snarkie 02-02-2017 04:50 PM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Hi Greg-

Why don't you post over in Member Introductions and tell us a little bit about yourself and how you found us. :)

CraigSS 02-03-2017 08:38 AM

Container banana soil.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nullzero (Post 187356)
I know what you mean, its better to use composted pine bark. However that nitrogen will become available again when it breaks down. I have not noticed any adverse effects using this mix on all my plants. I just compensate with fish emulsion fertilizer schedule and have been using kelp foliar sprays as well. Fruited bananas in containers with this mix, the mix works to counter the high PH water we have here in SoCal.

NullZero
This is being used in a container indoors. Does not the fish emulsion become a bit stringent and might keep the owners at bay?:waving:

beam2050 02-03-2017 09:14 AM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearskin10 (Post 302230)
Just got my first 2 Banana plants (Gros Michel and Blue Java) from Green Earth today and used your soil mix will see how they do.....

Thanks Greg

what did the plants look like from green earth?

subsonicdrone 02-03-2017 09:33 AM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
my experience has been that it smells while you are watering but not the next time i go in there (fish emulsion)

Bearskin10 02-03-2017 02:50 PM

Re: Container banana soil.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beam2050 (Post 302242)
what did the plants look like from green earth?

They were very nice plants packed well and in good health, I'll try to take some pics and see if I can figure out how to post them up.....


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