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Old 01-09-2018, 06:57 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Yah, that's the same problem with orchids in bark; we need to give it a fertilizer with extra nitrogen. I would never even consider bark with 'nanners. Have you ever tried a banana in semi-hydro?
Semi hydro ......OOPs do not know what you mean.


For me "bark in plants" is a common soil amendment locally which works across the board with many plants.
Not only does my soilless mix have to grow the plant in the summer but it also has to hold the plant over the winter.


I have noticed folks have many great ways to grow their plants..
And it differs more so geographically.
Me ...in zone 5/6..need the amendments to sustain my plants...
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how about sand blasting sand in a coarse grade its silica aka qartz
Unfortunately the size of this substrate is too small.....however it might be a expensive alternative to the sand phenom which has infiltrated the ranks.
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Semi hydro ......OOPs do not know what you mean.
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Semi-hydro is a method where the bananas are grown in a liquid nutrient solution similar to what the hydroponic growers would use, but with semi-hydro you add clay pellets to support the plant in the container, but which will still allow the nutrients to circulate around the roots. Since a banana has a lot of weight to support above the growing media, I think semi-hydro would work where plain hydroponic growing would not.

I think some of the growers here may have done that a while ago, but you would have to search for the thread.
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That's my favorite method, never knew the term was semi-hydro. Thanks guY.

I use Clean Coarse Sand instead of clay pellets.

Bark is fine but I prefer using a log because it lasts a little longer.

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Semi-hydro is a method where the bananas are grown in a liquid nutrient solution similar to what the hydroponic growers would use, but with semi-hydro you add clay pellets to support the plant in the container, but which will still allow the nutrients to circulate around the roots. Since a banana has a lot of weight to support above the growing media, I think semi-hydro would work where plain hydroponic growing would not.

I think some of the growers here may have done that a while ago, but you would have to search for the thread.

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Semi-hydro is a method where the bananas are grown in a liquid nutrient solution similar to what the hydroponic growers would use, but with semi-hydro you add clay pellets to support the plant in the container, but which will still allow the nutrients to circulate around the roots. Since a banana has a lot of weight to support above the growing media, I think semi-hydro would work where plain hydroponic growing would not.

I think some of the growers here may have done that a while ago, but you would have to search for the thread.
I have a system similar to that. I have a Dwarf Orinoco growing in a 28 gallon container filled with clean corse sand. It's a flood and drain system with a bell siphon on one end. Nutrients come from my 720 gallons of fish ponds with 3 different types of goldfish. Dwarf Orinoco should bloom this spring.
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Semi-hydro is a method where the bananas are grown in a liquid nutrient solution similar to what the hydroponic growers would use, but with semi-hydro you add clay pellets to support the plant in the container, but which will still allow the nutrients to circulate around the roots. Since a banana has a lot of weight to support above the growing media, I think semi-hydro would work where plain hydroponic growing would not.

I think some of the growers here may have done that a while ago, but you would have to search for the thread.
I am using those now on a hydro dwarf cav.
They give acceptable results.

Hydroton balls.

Hydroponics for begginers
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I am using those now on a hydro dwarf cav.
They give acceptable results.

Hydroton balls.

Hydroponics for begginers


An undersized system can produce,

a bud with no fingers,

a bud with only male fingers,

a bud with female fingers that never fill,

and sometimes no bud at all.



Having a properly sized system give acceptable results.

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An undersized system can produce,

a bud with no fingers,

a bud with only male fingers,

a bud with female fingers that never fill,

and sometimes no bud at all.



Having a properly sized system give acceptable results.
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Yes I know
I do not have the resources to grow out a mature hydro banana plant.
Banana Kush has better ROI for a closet 5 gallon set up.
It is fun to watch though.

Nice bunches btw
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It's information to help members that do have the resources.




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Yes I know
I do not have the resources to grow out a mature hydro banana plant.
Banana Kush has better ROI for a closet 5 gallon set up.
It is fun to watch though.

Nice bunches btw
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I have read a 'tea' made from chicken manure and wood ash is good.
With a good supply of rabbit 'leftovers' left to compost, a Great atteactant for earth worms, I use to top dress plants and re-pot various veggies and fruit trees.
Are eggshells bad for bananas?
Hello there!
Eggshells are fantastic for most all plants as they contain the obvious calcium, but also add sulfides and albimum (spelling?). Can't overdue the eggshells, but crush them as fine as possible as that makes the shell particles small enough to deteriorate faster and thus become available nutrients. Don't have to crush too small, as they will last several seasons in your soil.
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Is cow manure/w compost any good for these?
Cow manure (as opposed to Steer Manure) is excellent along with compost, peat moss, perlite. Just make sure that the plants have good drainage and don't sit in water.
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That's a nice bunch o' nanners!
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It's information to help members that do have the resources.

If you can please post a photo of the whole plant growing in your system.
A shot of the bunch on a tailgate is somewhat misleading...
It is just a shot of a bunch of bananas on a tailgate.


The photo does not show container, plant, and bunch in a single frame.
Your system sounds awesome....show the forum more photos in the hydroponic thread.

And if you can post your photos in the hydroponic thread where forum members will enrich themselves .

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This is one of 14 Variegated Florida we planted in an 832 yesterday and 13 more will be done today, an 832 holds 3 rows of 9 plants.



These pots are made with prefabricated supports and a liner. The parts are not connected and can be moved or reconfigured into many other sizes.






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If you can please post a photo of the whole plant growing in your system.
A shot of the bunch on a tailgate is somewhat misleading...
It is just a shot of a bunch of bananas on a tailgate.


The photo does not show container, plant, and bunch in a single frame.
Your system sounds awesome....show the forum more photos in the hydroponic thread.

And if you can post your photos in the hydroponic thread where forum members will enrich themselves .

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Works very well...
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For the container/backyard grower you want your roots to look like this when you repot your plant.
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Some container bananas have no soil at all.



Just 28 gallons of clean corse sand.
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Not trying to steal the thread, but i thought you might like to see how it did since planting last April. This picture is from today.

Winter slowed it way down. you can see on the leaves it has the winter blues. Same Dwarf Orinoco. Same 28 gallon 1/2 barrel. Same clean corse sand but not as clean. Lots of fish waste gets filtered out in the sand. when i have time i will post more pictures in the hydro thread.
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Cool post....do not worry you did not steal the thread...or best growing techniqe.
The three stooges that thanked your post are alittle off.

Forum members that have switched to sand are now paying the price of poor plant growth....just wait.

It's probably a waste of time replying to this knucklehead, but maybe this real world experience will be beneficial to some of our other members.

The USDA Tropical Research Station had a decade of difficulties growing their Manini/A'ea'e and if you go to their website and look under 'Curator notes' you'll see this quote

“Stable chimera; beautiful variegated plant; difficult to grow; does not produce bunch often;"

The USDA has always been impressed with the huge bunches I harvest and after they lost their stock they came to me asking for new plants.

I found it difficult to believe that a research station filled with highly educated banana scientists would have difficulties growing this banana.

Obviously whatever they were doing wasn't working. I advised them that it probably had to do with soil aeration and that they should plant this in clean coarse sand using heavy top mulch to help retain moisture. At the time they were skeptical but they did it anyway. A few months later they got back to me saying how great their plant was growing and no more problems.

This is very basic banana growing, no magic needed.


This is a photo of the actual Manini plant that was sent to the USDA.

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The three stooges that thanked your post are alittle off.

Forum members that have switched to sand are now paying the price of poor plant growth....just wait.
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