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Old 12-29-2017, 11:56 AM   #41 (permalink)
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for parboiled rice hulls have you tried beer making suppliers in florida? one company in new Smyrna fl. sells it by the 50 lb. bag
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for parboiled rice hulls have you tried beer making suppliers in florida? one company in new Smyrna fl. sells it by the 50 lb. bag
Was it Southern Homebrew in New Smyrna FL? I just called them and they had no idea what parboiled was, but they do have regular rice hulls but only in 1# bags and they were like $1.25 a bag which isn't exactly cheap and New Smyrna is still a huge hop skip and a jump for a small quantity of over priced rice hulls. Any other suggestions? BTW they don't even sell it or cannot get 50# bags, so this is pretty much strike 3 here on the PBRH in Florida.
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Called the Asia grains and left a message for them. This is becoming more of a headache than it's worth just like finding Gran-I-Grit in Florida was for the Gritty Mix.
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Was it Southern Homebrew in New Smyrna FL? I just called them and they had no idea what parboiled was, but they do have regular rice hulls but only in 1# bags and they were like $1.25 a bag which isn't exactly cheap and New Smyrna is still a huge hop skip and a jump for a small quantity of over priced rice hulls. Any other suggestions? BTW they don't even sell it or cannot get 50# bags, so this is pretty much strike 3 here on the PBRH in Florida.
yes southern homebrew

adjunct grain rice hulls 50 lb bag
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The woman I spoke to there had no idea what parboiled was (I had to explain it to her) and said they do not, nor can they even order 50# bags of even the regular rice hulls. They only sell 1# bags to make a better ROI for them as they are a retailer to micro breweries.
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Unlike Illinois, Florida still has commercial growers of potted tropical plants. The suppliers of these growers should have PBH. About 10 years ago, I bought PBG from a BFG Growers Supply outlet in Illinois before they closed operations in Illinois. Contact Riceland and ask for distributers in Florida:

Riceland Foods Inc/PBH
2510 Guara Dr
Cedar Park, TX 78613-1619
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Incidentally, I don't know what would happen if the rice hulls weren't parboiled. Maybe, rice seedlings would germinate from rice in the hulls.
Scott Johnson called me back but he's in Texas and has no suppliers or distributors in Florida. He still took my address down to see what freight delivery will be but I know it will be a joke like $100 or more as the minimum quantity is a pallet which is 16 50# bags which is over kill and he said it was $15-$16 a bag which is double what someone mentioned in a different thread about getting #50 of PBH for $8 at a feed store.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:30 PM   #47 (permalink)
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The woman I spoke to there had no idea what parboiled was (I had to explain it to her) and said they do not, nor can they even order 50# bags of even the regular rice hulls. They only sell 1# bags to make a better ROI for them as they are a retailer to micro breweries.
adjuncts is separated from the grain thru grinding. but its funny there site says they sell the 50 lb bag for a little less than 40 dollars.
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I called that Sun Pro distributor listed earlier in the thread by Obediah, and that lady while nice and admitted they incorporate PBH in their mixes they do not sell it directly.

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adjuncts is separated from the grain thru grinding. but its funny there site says they sell the 50 lb bag for a little less than 40 dollars.
Even if they did have it, $40 is WAY too expensive if these are normally $15-$20 for a #50 bag, and then either I'd have to drive to New Smyrna or have it shipped and then we're talking another $20 for gas or shipping. No deal.
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I find it odd that Floridas growers want amendments that are just like what you can find in your back yard.....or home depot....or walmart.
Miracle grow mix is fine for the novice backyard grower. Especially for tc'.

This mix is affordable and one of the best mix's for plants.

As for watering requirements of a young banans plant.....it is the same as a seedling tomatoe...or cannibis or beans. If you can relate to that ......your good.
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I find it odd that Floridas growers want amendments that are just like what you can find in your back yard.....or home depot....or walmart.
Miracle grow mix is fine for the novice backyard grower. Especially for tc'.

This mix is affordable and one of the best mix's for plants.

As for watering requirements of a young banans plant.....it is the same as a seedling tomatoe...or cannibis or beans. If you can relate to that ......your good.
Not sure that's completely true about water requirements of bananas being the same as tomato seedlings. I can have a very wet soil for seedlings and they thrive. Heck I can grow tomatoes in 100% compost and they thrive and I can't say the same for bananas as it would retain too much water and cause rot.

As for miracle grow, I can't stand that stuff and I would never recommend their horrible products. If I have to buy a retail potting mix it is Pro Mix but I prefer to make my own as it is cheaper and I can tailor it to my own needs. Miracle Grow is CRAP!!!
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Not sure that's completely true about water requirements of bananas being the same as tomato seedlings. I can have a very wet soil for seedlings and they thrive. Heck I can grow tomatoes in 100% compost and they thrive and I can't say the same for bananas as it would retain too much water and cause rot.

As for miracle grow, I can't stand that stuff and I would never recommend their horrible products. If I have to buy a retail potting mix it is Pro Mix but I prefer to make my own as it is cheaper and I can tailor it to my own needs. Miracle Grow is CRAP!!!


Sorry , I thought you had a better understanding of basic gardening skills .
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My favorite is:
30% perlite
20% rice hulls
50% pine bark mix potting soil or any quality potting soil.

If not using the rice hulls or if the potting soil has a bad wetting agent then use 50% perlite! Perlite is my number 1 most important ingredient.

There are many many mixes that will work. Just as long as they are well draining you are good.
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Sorry , I thought you had a better understanding of basic gardening skills .
Is that supposed to be an insult? Someone promoting Miracle Grow to someone that makes their own soil is a joke. Your remark should be directed at you as any serious grower would NEVER use Miracle Grow. It's been a joke for the last 30 years. I didn't think people other than total newbies would ever use that and then once they know what their doing they see the errors of their ways. Basically what I am saying is you should know better than to be using that crap, and yes it is CRAP.
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Miracle grow mix is fine for the novice backyard grower. Especially for tc'.
As I recall, the ingredients list on MG potting mix says that it is made from locally obtained products, which means that the quality depends on where it is made. So, both you and Kanana can be right based on your experiences. But, shame on MG for poor quality control and pinching pennies with local ingredients.

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As for watering requirements of a young banans plant.....it is the same as a seedling tomatoe...or cannibis or beans. If you can relate to that ......your good.
I agree.
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if this dosent do it I give up not florida and may not be parboilled but the last chance I can come up with both list rice by products including hulls

Planters Rice Mill, LLC



403 S Washington St
Abbeville, LA 70510-6627

Phone: 337-898-3056

Fax: 337-893-1122

www.plantersllc.com

Supreme Rice, LLC



102 South 13th Street
Mermentau, LA 70556

Phone: 337-824-5558

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Is that supposed to be an insult? Someone promoting Miracle Grow to someone that makes their own soil is a joke. Your remark should be directed at you as any serious grower would NEVER use Miracle Grow. It's been a joke for the last 30 years. I didn't think people other than total newbies would ever use that and then once they know what their doing they see the errors of their ways. Basically what I am saying is you should know better than to be using that crap, and yes it is CRAP.
guess I am a newbie then I have used mg also used plain dirt , material from a 50 year old rotted down slab pile fresh cowermanure with sand and composted sawdust , composted cow crap sawdust and pearlite partally rotted sawdust . daddy petes potting soil to name a few and they grew fairly well in all of the above if fertlized properly and not over or under watered and of course lots of perlite in everything great stuff
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This is the first site I got when googling Miracle Gro, Have fun reading the reviews. It validates what I said when I said Miracle Gro is CRAP and I wouldn't give it to my worst enemy even if my intention was to sabotage their growing operation, I couldn't be that cruel to stick them with this Miracle Gro garbage. Read the tons of reviews of their bags filled with gnats, ants, TERMITES!!!! Weird fungus, salt etc. etc. Stay AWAY from anything Miracle Gro. You have been warned!

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/home...racle_gro.html
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if this dosent do it I give up not florida and may not be parboilled but the last chance I can come up with both list rice by products including hulls

Planters Rice Mill, LLC



403 S Washington St
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Thanks for trying but I am done trying to find PBH. More important things to do with my time than beating a dead horse with dead ends every chance I get.

The one lead from Asian Rice that was listed earlier finally called me back. First they told me they get their grain from Thailand (STRIKE 1), and then that they're in Miami (4 hours + away from me so that's a no go - (STRIKE 2)) then that they only ship 800 50# bags minimum (STRIKE 3), then to find out it is parboiled rice, not rice hulls (STRIKE 4). Then to find out they still wanted $16 a bag for this (STRIKE 5). So much for PBH, but I am finished trying to find this proverbial needle in the haystack here in Florida.

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Thanks for trying but I am done trying to find PBH. More important things to do with my time than beating a dead horse with dead ends every chance I get.

The one lead from Asian Rice that was listed earlier finally called me back. First they told me they get their grain from Thailand (STRIKE 1), and then that they're in Miami (4 hours + away from me so that's a no go - (STRIKE 2)) then that they only ship 800 50# bags minimum (STRIKE 3), then to find out it is parboiled rice, not rice hulls (STRIKE 4). Then to find out they still wanted $16 a bag for this (STRIKE 5). So much for PBH, but I am finished trying to find this proverbial needle in the haystack here in Florida.
At this stage, you don't even know whether you would like PBH, even if it was free. Your only reason for getting PBH should be to experiment with it, not to go into full scale production of potted plants. Towards that end, you should buy one 50 lb. bag for about $20 + $25 shipping. Then, if and when you determine what PBH is worth to you, you can look for better deals. Look at it this way, you spend $45 for first hand knowledge of PBH.
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