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Old 11-25-2017, 03:52 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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I would buy 18 wheeler loads of perlite and add it to my garden soil! It is NOT styrofoam! It is all natural! They take volcanic rock and heat it until it pops like popcorn! If you donít know what it is or the benefits, Go google it! Amazing stuff.
Yes, I know about the benefits, not sure why azuzinski was dead against perlite and vermiculite in the garden soil though. Hope they offer up their reasons though. Should be interesting.
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Old 11-25-2017, 07:14 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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did not know this thanks.

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I have changed to a pine bark mix for potting bananas. It is made/mix by a local fertilizer company for nursery's at 80% bark (medium/fine grind); 10% sand; 10% peat. ... Bark & sand doesn't absorb water but only retains that which adheres to the surface. Peat will hold water like a sponge. I don't remember what the at water retention of the mix was (I think 30% to 40% by wt ???). And excess water started draining from the pot in less than 5 seconds & was finished less than 2 or 3 minutes, making this a very fast draining potting mix.

I'll test water retention & draining again in a week or 2; and post the results later.

I bought 1 yard of the 80-10-10 bark mix for $20. Much less than buying bagged potting soil at $5 per 2 cft bag & perlite at $4.50 per 8 gt bag (abt 1/4 cft) which would cost about $262/yd (or $9.70 per cft of mix) to make a 50/50 mix for potting bananas.

I don't know that this is 'the Best' but it sure is less costly and the Bananas wont care as long as you feed and water them.
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I would think bark would do fine! Especially at that price! For perlite check feed stores! Mom and pop ones! Not tractor supply, etc. i get 4cu ft of perlite for right around $13. It’s the same place the local nursery’s buy it from! The feed store gets truckloads of product so no extra shipping for the perlite, etc. just look around! If you can’t find any, i know Home Depot sells decent sized bags for an ok price. 2cuft or so i think. Lots of mixes will work! I don’t like peat either! I love rice hulls in my mix.
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Thanks Ty,

The prices was based on Walmart & Dollar Store. I haven't seen big bags of perlite in the stores. I think my local fertilizer company has the large bags of perlite, but I don't need it with the 80-10-10 mix. The peat is used in the mix to increase water retention, so i don't have a problem with it in this mix. ...Anyway the cost saving means I can get more banana plants!!!! ...
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for pearlite check building supply and concrete dealers they use it to fill the void in concrete block as insulation as for potting mix I work part time for a co that makes the stuff in different varites but for personal use I get the scrap thats spilled around the machinery I just sweep it up in 5 gal buckets or if i am really lucky get a loader bucket full dumped in my pickup

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Also way more expensive! $65 for spaghnum and $22 for shipping? I don't think so ....

I don't see any problem with perlite or vermiculite in garden soil either, if anything I encourage it as it's better than the hard pan soil I already have on my property.
Sphagnum moss is not so expensive on a volume basis. After the 22 lb. bale is uncompressed, it will be very light and fluffy. A few ounces of sphagnum moss is enough to amend about 20 gallons of potting media.

Some vermiculites contain asbestos:

Asbestos in Vermiculite

Good luck with vermiculite in your garden soil. I don't feel so lucky nor do I expect the government to protect me from such things.

And, if and when you sell your property, I hope the buyer doesn't see the vermiculite or perlite in your soil and use that as a flimsy excuse to negotiate a lower price.

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whats the deal with perlite?

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whats the deal with perlite?
I admit that my reasons for disliking perlite are flimsy:

1. I prefer rice hulls because, unlike perlite, rice hulls are a source of soluble silicate. Musa are silicate accumulators.

2. In my experience, white mealy bugs camouflage themselves as perlite particles that have splashed onto the bottoms of lower leaves. I even suspect that they evolved this trait on plants potted with perlite. White mealy bug are easy to spot when you don't use perlite.

3. There is some debate about phytotoxic levels of fluoride in perlite:

AN ARTICLE ON PERLITE, FLUORIDE, AND FLORICULTURAL CROPS---The Schundler Company

Enough for a pessimist, like me, to worry about.

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Old 12-14-2017, 08:11 PM   #32 (permalink)
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This is what we use locally

The mix is made by many of the local plant society members.

Super fan of pearlite/sand /peat/vermiculite/rice hulls.

Our go to amendments and soil mix is peat moss/pearlite/pine fines which can be adjusted to meet your plants needs.


Of course some can debate this .......just use what works for you and what you can afford.

Everything mentioned in the thread works very well.





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And, if and when you sell your property, I hope the buyer doesn't see the vermiculite or perlite in your soil and use that as a flimsy excuse to negotiate a lower price.
I'd rather have the vermiculite in my soil on my property than the crappy hard pan filled with inorganic TRASH the former owners buried in gthe soil along with concrete and full size lava rock, all covered with black PLASTIC landscape fabric. It's been 2 1/2 years since I've been here and I curse the former owners everyday for their poor decisions, that I am having to fix now after the fact. Vermiculite would have been a dream compared to the crap they left me.
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