Bananas.org

Welcome to the Bananas.org forums.

You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Go Back   Bananas.org > Banana Forum > Banana Plant Health And Maintenance Topics
Register Photo Gallery Classifieds Wiki Chat Map Today's Posts

Banana Plant Health And Maintenance Topics This forum is for discussions of banana plant health topics such as coloration issues, burning, insects, pruning, transplanting, separating pups, viruses, disease, and other general banana plant health and maintenance issues.


Members currently in the chatroom: 0
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009.
No one is currently using the chat.

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-20-2010, 03:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
Zone 10, South Florida
 
jeffreyp's Avatar
 
Location: Royal Palm Beach
Zone: 10
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 870
BananaBucks : 140,205
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 30 Times
Was Thanked 590 Times in 298 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times
Send a message via MSN to jeffreyp Send a message via Skype™ to jeffreyp
Default a thought for treating fungal, bacterial, or viral plant infections

Enhance Plant Vitality Via Use of Ionic Colloidal Silver Misting



COLLOIDAL SILVER AND PLANT VITALITY

Plants, like animals are harassed by pathogens such as bacteria and viruses and also parasites, such as fungi, grubs and sap suckers, not to mention they are food to many insects and their offspring. There are thousands of inexpensive but dangerous chemical pesticides and repellents, expensive natural plant oils and other treatments but the one shining light to plant vitality is extremely low cost ionic colloidal silver.

Home use ionic silver generators can produce ionic silver for as little as 80 cents a gallon, while commercial horticultural production equipment make it for as little as 5 cents a gallon. It is thus not only very economical, effective and safe but also ecologically Green!

What is colloidal silver? By definition it is tiny particles of metallic silver suspended in pure water but that is relatively useless, metals having little bio-availability. Ionic colloidal silver on the other hand has well proven biocidal effects and utmost safety plus you can inexpensively make your own at home. An ion is a atom of a metal with one or more electrons removed, so a powerful stray radical. Our EPA classes silver as an oligodynamic biocide, meaning it is fatal to primitive life forms such as bacteria, viruses, prions, eggs, etc. yet readily used by our more complex cells to kill off pathogens. Death to pathogens is believed to be by the silver ion attaching to the pathogens respiration site, causing death by suffocation.

Silver is a natural biocide and in the ionic form (water soluble) is oligodynamic (fatal to primitive life forms such as eggs and pathogens) yet is utterly safe to plant, animal and insect cells (mature life forms). Many insects such as bees and Lady bugs are beneficial to plants so chemical insecticides are dangerous. Applied as a mist to plant leaves and stems ionic silver can be absorbed by plant cells, to aid in the immune systems natural destruction of plant pathogens while at the same time destroying eggs laid on the plant, breaking the target insects life cycle. Like any pesticide, spray only when appropriate, I.E when unwanted insect eggs are first deposited. Generally beneficial insects would not be laying eggs on the plants so may be of low concern.

Here in Florida ionic silver has controlled tomato mosaic virus, fruit tree leaf curl, kills the mango flower egg (grub) that causes bud drop, kills rose rust, etc.Seeds germinate at 100% and grow robustly when soaked in ionic silver to sprout, etc. In the garden tomato plants sprayed a few times will produce massive yields, due to maximized plant vitality.

Logically, you should not hesitate to use ionic silver on house plants or in any agricultural environment, first from an economic viewpoint as an aid to plant vitality and thus up to 30% improved yield and in particular as a non chemical pesticide, fungicide, virucide and bactericide. From a business mans return on investment consideration the ionic silver equipment can pay for itself in a matter of months. While to the average bloke using a "pharmaceutical grade" product on plants may sound like a waste, consider the real production cost is under 10 cents a gallon, which relates to under a dollar to "mist" an acre, for a superior yet chemical free biocide with pesticide benefits! Even the workers will gain, with less health problems!

A brief look at grape production indicates the mist application requirement is 1-2 gallons per acre to wet the leaves - see: mistsprayers.com for what appears to be the most logical applicator on farms. Droplets should be avoided to prevent wetting the soil too deeply for friendly bacteria in the soil would then be destroyed. Further, a dedicated spray tank should also be used, to prevent the formation of nearly non-soluble silver salts (the result of mixing with soluble minerals) as they are generally 10,000 times less bio-available then the highly reactive ions.

Evaporation of the water will leave reduced silver and or salts, which have a minor but sustained bio-benefit. In my 10,000 gallon swimming pool it took 40 gallons to reach the effective biocidal dosage (20 parts per billion) but requires only one gallon per month makeup, due to the high residual effect of the poorly soluble silver salts.

The little I know from local tomato growers is that after each rain another application of pesticides is made so there should possibly be weekly applications. Unlike chemical pesticides the ionic silver is harmless to mature insects (oligodynamic) and a great aid to plant vitality so no problem if applied often, so long as the soil is not soaked. As a minimum it should be re-applied after insect pests deposit eggs on leaves and stems, to break their life cycle.

You have to think out of the box, to realize ionic silver is ideal as a general plant health aid in addition to being an anti-pathogenic material fatal to primative life forms (including eggs). In humans, besides being biocidal it has strong anti-inflammatory effects, promotes the production of mast cells, aids DNA repair and so likely has similar benefits to plants.

You can hardly consider 5 parts per million to be concentrated so there is no risk of over use burning the leaves, just do not saturate the soil.

There is utmost safety, for if you look at our EPA's data on silver (http//www.epa.gov/iris/subst/0099.htm#oralrfd) there is no risk of silver "overdosing" during spray applications other then the rare case of Argyria, a discolorization of the skin when absorbed in gross doses for extended periods (silver salts are photosensitive so darken after light exposure). They compute the safe daily dose (rfD) at 14 teaspoons of 5 PPM daily for 70 years!

Ionic silver vapors are routinely breathed for lung problems and in fact a Dr. Brooks Bradley cured (6) patients with "terminal lung problems" by having them breath a few ounces of ionic silver mist daily - even lung cancer responded! I routinely use an ultrasonic vaporized to breath the vapors, for persistent allergy problems. The amount a field worker would breath would be far less then a ounce and I have customers that have their whole family ingested a quart a day with no side effects! I caution all to avoid overdosing with anything, for the body reacts by more rapid excretion, reducing its effectiveness but they insist their health has never been better and have used the high dose daily for years. Reported cases of Argyria are only 8 per year according to our FDA and never from silver ions but from non-soluble silver salts that most "home generators" produce when ultra pure water (double distilled grade) is not used.

I have just sprouted (30) Moringa tree seeds in ionic silver saturated paper towels - always get 100% germination as no pathogenic problems. Moringa you may know is the Worlds answer to starvation, called the food tree as leaves, seeds and roots are eatable and extremely nutritious. I plan to add the leaves and eventually seeds to my diet, as it is a very fast growing tree.

Fred Peschel is a graduate Mechanical Engineer with 40 years experience in custom electronic design and manufacture in the high voltage test equipment area. Upon retirement he started studying self healing and in the last 10 years has become a world class expert on colloidal silver manufacture and applications.
jeffreyp is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To jeffreyp
Said thanks:

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 07-20-2010, 06:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
Northern Tropics
 
sandy0225's Avatar
 
Location: Muncie, Indiana zone 5
Zone: zone 5
Name: Sandy
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,718
BananaBucks : 354,960
Feedback: 31 / 97%
Said "Thanks" 38 Times
Was Thanked 1,801 Times in 682 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 9 Times
Default Re: a thought for treating fungal, bacterial, or viral plant infections

I don't know if it's totally safe though. Check out this guy that was on Oprah that drank colloidal silver. He's blue!
Dr. Oz discusses Medical Questions on ‘Oprah’ and Man with Blue Skin appears on TV Show | Best Syndication
__________________
Sandy Burrell



Northern Tropics Greenhouse
1501 East Fuson Road
Muncie, IN 47302
www.northerntropics.com


specializing in bananas, heirloom tomatoes and water gardening plants~
check out our new online store at our website!
sandy0225 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To sandy0225
Said thanks:
Old 07-21-2010, 12:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
saltydad's Avatar
 
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland USA
Zone: 7a
Name: Howard
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,552
BananaBucks : 174,302
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 14,712 Times
Was Thanked 4,662 Times in 1,778 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 824 Times
Default Re: a thought for treating fungal, bacterial, or viral plant infections

Years ago when i worked in a burn unit the main topical medication we used was silver sulfadiazine 1% cream, on 2nd and 3rd degree burns. I'm not sure however, if it is still the drug of choice.
__________________
Men In Nursing- "A Few Good Men"

"Gardening is the purest of human pleasures." - Francis Bacon





"If by a liberal, they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind; someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions; someone who cares about the welfare of the people, their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, their civil liberties; someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicion that grips us; that is what they meant by a liberal, I am proud to be a liberal."
John F. Kennedy, September, 1960


http://flickr.com/photos/saltydad/ and
http://community.webshots.com/user/saltydad
http://s751.photobucket.com/albums/xx151/saltydad/

saltydad is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To saltydad
Old 07-21-2010, 02:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
Muck bananas
 
Nicolas Naranja's Avatar
 
Location: Pahokee, FL
Zone: 10
Name: Nick
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,217
BananaBucks : 460,673
Feedback: 7 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 66 Times
Was Thanked 5,663 Times in 1,562 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 7 Times
Send a message via AIM to Nicolas Naranja
Default Re: a thought for treating fungal, bacterial, or viral plant infections

Like copper, I would be very careful with using silver too much. Many old orchards used copper so much that they made the soil toxic.
__________________
Some people go bananas, I went plantains.
Weather Underground PWS KFLCANAL7
Nicolas Naranja is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Nicolas Naranja
Said thanks:
Old 07-21-2010, 02:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
Zone 10, South Florida
 
jeffreyp's Avatar
 
Location: Royal Palm Beach
Zone: 10
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 870
BananaBucks : 140,205
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 30 Times
Was Thanked 590 Times in 298 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times
Send a message via MSN to jeffreyp Send a message via Skype™ to jeffreyp
Default Re: a thought for treating fungal, bacterial, or viral plant infections

a little goes a long way with silver...tho good advice nevertheless.
jeffreyp is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To jeffreyp
Sponsors

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page

Previous Thread: Goldfinger 2nd day outside
Next Thread: malformed leaf





Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Just when you thought you've see it all...... momoese Tiki Hut 13 07-11-2015 06:25 PM
Bacterial soft rot in callas mbfirey Other Plants 2 06-23-2010 05:19 AM
Random Thought AV1611Corbin777 Tiki Hut 7 02-24-2010 07:05 PM
Thought provoking Chironex Tiki Hut 17 12-20-2008 07:10 AM
thought this might help :D xavierdlc61887 Tissue Culturing & Other Propagation Techniques of Banana Plants 8 07-14-2008 09:32 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:40 AM.





All content © Bananas.org & the respective author.