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Old 03-21-2017, 01:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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i got this banana tree from a friend and now all leaves turn yellow.
any tips on how to save it? any help is really appriciated!

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More info... Does it ever get light for instance? Where it is, it doesn't look like it. Have you been watering it? If so, how much? My best guess is overwatering with no more info than I have. Either that or it's just adjusting to a new home...
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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.
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thanks a lot for your quick answer!
it does get a lot of light actually. it's facing south.
i have been watering it. not too much i think but of course overwatering is a possibility.
any tips on how to treat this banana now?
thank you very much!
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It takes time to adjust to it's new environment. Go easy on water... still not sure it gets enough light. Do you provide any artificial lightning?
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Thanks for the photo.How long has it been in the pot and what type of banana plant is it?
It looks a bit like a Gold Finger.
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Wow ... when was the last time the plant was fertilized? The yellow edge appears to be classic symptoms of magnesium deficiency. But, potassium and calcium deficiency symptoms are similar in early stages and 3 tie together. What is your fertilizer program for this plant?

To make things more complicated, what is the soil PH? the Ph should be in the range of 6 to 6.5. If this is far out, then the roots may not be able to take up the needed nutrients. Thus, deficiencies as stated above even tho fertilizer is available.

Banana pots in the house should be moist to nearly dry. Because the plant is in the house it can not expire water like outside plants. So it can be over watered very easily. Instead start misting the plant a couple of times a day with water because of the dryer inside humidity. I'm also finding out inside banana plants seen to benefit from air circulation. Use a small fan to blow on the plant to help it to expire and improve its circulation and to lessen the chance of fungus development.

Get a ph meter and a water meter. Your finger just is that good for checking when to water.

There is a lot that goes on with banana plants. But when they are move from the outside to inside potted plant, they lose the benefit of morning dew & rain (fresh moisture); the strong heat of sunlight (kills fungus & promotes expiration of water from the plant); and wind (expiration and drying of the outside stalk sheaf). Banana plants are 87% water.
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Please keep in mind, bananas like to be outside in the sun all day. Compared to that, how much light does it get? Also, how long has it been in a pot? Finally, it is very easy to over water indoor bananas, so be careful... Once the roots begin rotting it is a downward spiral that is hard to control.
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no i dont provide any artificial light. and i dont have the possibility to do so.
i live in austria by the way. so at this time of the year we dont have too much sun light. but i have bananas for many years and this is the first time they react like this.
thanks a lot for your advise. i think i will change the soil today, maybe i gave it too much water.

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sorry i dont know how long it is in this pot since i just got it from a friend. and neither do i know what kind of banana it is. i bought one many many years ago and this is just a sprig from this one, and my friend just raised it to this size.
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Make sure the soil is VERY drainable, loose & airy. This helps to control root fungus and keeps the water from becoming stagnate in the pot. Throw out any water that drains out of the pot. Do not reuse.
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maybe could you please post a better pic in the day time? with the the entire pot? So we can see the size and of it and soil that's been used.
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hi!

i hope this pics are better now. if not i will take some more of course.
the pot has a diameter of 45cm / 17,7 inch and has a height of 36 cm / 14,1 inch.
i just changed the soil today. i put some clay pieces and sand on the bottom and then filled it up with regular soil.





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i hope this pics are better now. if not i will take some more of course.
the pot has a diameter of 45cm / 17,7 inch and has a height of 36 cm / 14,1 inch.
i just changed the soil today. i put some clay pieces and sand on the bottom and then filled it up with regular soil.





sry i dont know why the pics turn sideways. in my pdfs they are upright. sorry for that!
Regular soil is risky if you grow in pots indoors. It keeps too much moisture. I do my own mixes and always put at least 40% coarse sand in the mix. My nanners do great with that ratio. It drains well.
Your pot seems to be way too small for a nanner that size.
I'd put on some lights for sure and start thinking about fertilization.
Plants don't like when we move them so with time and a bit of care, it should be fine.
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hello!

thanks a lot for the tip! i'll try to get my hands on some coarse sand and then try it out!
well i think thats the biggest size they have in the shops around here!
can you recomend a certain fertilizer?

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I agree with JP. The regular soil is risky due to lack of air if the soil is packed tightly and water retention. I've seen potting mix recommendations for as much as 70 to 75% sand & 25 to 30% potting soil or peat. I think this is more a function of how fast you want the pot to drain and how often you want to water it. ... I haven't tried that mix because I plan to change to very course pine bark (1/4" size) with some potting soil. Nurseries in my area are using large nugget pine bark (up to 1" size) with some peat or soil. The pots drain very quickly and allow daily watering as any excess drains away.
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If you repot again, please take a picture of the roots. They should be white. This plant looks like dwarf or super dwarf variety banana.
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i will as soon as i do so! thank you very much!
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Just to throw out another possibility I will mention salt (excess fertilizer). I don't grow bananas indoors, and in many years of growing them outdoors I have never seen salt damage. However, those leaves look a bit like salt-damaged taro leaves. The worst case I ever got was doing something you may be tempted by in Austria in March - I used road sand. I thought for sure the salt was washed out of it because it was in a flooded area where it had been tumbled by water for a long distance.
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You always wash the sand before using it... I wash the gravel before putting it in the bottom of the pots too.
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hi!

thanks a lot for all that info! luckily i bought some clean sand and did not use road sand!
so i dont think its a salt problem. but again thanks for the info. i really appriciate it!
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