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Old 11-14-2017, 01:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hello,

I just joined, because I was hoping y'all could help me. I have never grown bananas before, but I received my first two in the mail yesterday from Wellspring Gardens. The Dwarf Puerto Rican has brown spots on the leaf, on the stem and on the new leaf that hasn't even opened yet, that just grew out since yesterday. Is this normal shipping stress, or does it just show that it didn't get the care that it wanted and I can nurse it back to health, or could it have one of those dangerous banana diseases?

The other banana plant seems okay, except for browning where a couple of leaves were cut off.

What should I do with this little Dwarf Puerto Rican? I don't want to never be able to keep bananas, because the first order I received had a disease! Should I trash this little guy or is everything okay?

Thanks so much!

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Please post pictures of the plants. And where are you located & growing zone?
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Sorry about that, I had to learn how to post the pictures. I'm in zone 8 close to Fort Worth, but I will keep the banana plants inside, until winter is over. When spring comes, I plan on keeping them in a container, if this plant doesn't have a disease to sabotage me before I even get to start growing bananas.
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That is not normal. You should have nice green plants. I would contact Wellsprings and show them the pictures. Those spots had to have been on the plant before they were shipped. It's a little early to tell what the spots are; but they look like a possible fungus infection or insect damage (???).
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Should I dispose of the plant before it spreads? The Dwarf Orinoco doesn't have any spots, yet, but it was in the same drip tray when I watered them and they were in the same shipping box. I wonder if I should dispose of the Orinoco, too, before this disease gets in my house to the point I can't get rid of it and can't keep bananas!
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I also got a lemongrass in that order (it looks just fine), but I already took it out to my plant stand in the garage. If this is a disease, then it looks like it may have had a chance to spread all over my house, just since yesterday.

Maybe I should just not buy any more banana trees; see how the Dwarf Orinoco does, since it appears to be okay and could be resistant to the disease (Orinocos are pretty disease resistant, anyway. Right?); and either dispose of the Dwarf Puerto Rican or try treating it with Neem oil, first, since my house has been exposed, anyway. Does that sound like I have a good plan? What would you suggest, in light of all your experience?

There were no banana diseases here, before I received this order, because I've never had a banana plant and I'm close to Fort Worth, Texas. Now, my house has been exposed, so I'm not sure what to do. I've already contacted Wellspring, this morning, but I have not heard back from them. However, what good is a refund going to do, since my house has already been exposed? How could I ever be reimbursed for that?

Am I freaking out too much? Would I still be able to keep bananas, if I get an extremely disease resistant banana plant? Would a Dwarf Namwa be a good choice or a Raja Puri? I only have eight foot ceilings and I wanted to grow my banana plants in containers.
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Contact Wellsprings first. They may want the plants back, but I doubt it. I suspect they will send you new plants. ... Just keep the plants isolated (just so the plants are not in contact), they may grow out of it.
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Thanks much for your help. I've messaged Wellspring twice, now. I expect to eventually hear back from them, because I placed the order through eBay.

The Orinoco is now developing the dark spots that came on the Dwarf Puerto Rican.
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This is what Wellspring said, "Hello, This is not a disease. It is happening because at some point the banana stem got wet and stayed wet. If kept dry, new leaves will not have the discoloration and the stem should clear up. Thanks!"

Does this sound like it could be right?
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Not really ... but you should start seeing an improvement in a week or 2 with the new leaves. Are the plants constantly wet? How much are you watering? Over watering will promote fungus growth. The plants need to dry out between watering.
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Thanks, again. Okay, I will be careful not to overwater them. I've only watered them one time, since I received them in the mail. I just soaked them down with neem, so I'm sure that will help, also. My figs, hot peppers, and dwarf mulberry trees act like it's fertilizer, because they love it. It's sure nice to think that this situation is fixable, because I REALLY want to raise bananas. I've waited a whole year for my little mulberry trees to give me a few ounces of fruit, so several pounds of bananas with the same effort... I like that!
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If I look at this in general tropical terms and not directly from banana terms. That could be blight from compact roots. That would not be from overwatering. The roots need a loose soil and room to recover. That is common in the tropical plant industry. From my banana experience that looks like a disease I had in a group of plants I got from a nursery in Apopka Florida I found Florida hill seems to have plants with it as well. Me and my neighbor tried for months to try and get them to recover and we had a total loss in all plants we tried to recover. The stems just kept turning to black mush. That was the only time I ever saw such an event and your plants look similar. I have stopped buying from mail order companies in general but still have a few trusted ones that I always get quality from. This may be normal but not in my experience and I now am well over 300 plants.
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Thanks so much, Botanical Bryce!

If I work on nursing these two little guys back to health, will that be risking that every banana plant I get from now on could get the same disease?
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Keep sick plants isolated from healthy plants and use extra sanitation measures like hand sanitizer. If they recover you may have some nice plants. If you clean up proper you should not have any risk IMO. I have had to do this with plants and reptiles for years to ensure safety so I am used to it. My collection is pretty extensive and I can't replace many of my plants if I tried again, so for me I would not be willing to risk it. If you are in the beginning stages and just get used to things healing or killing some things could be a great learning time. I killed young bananas in the beginning. Just quarantine and be sanitary. See how it works out.
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Bryce, you order from Florida Hills? I didn't think anyone did from here anymore.
I get my plants from same place but never had any issues like this.
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Send the plants back to Wellsprings for credit. Tell them, this was how they were received and the plants are not healthy. And, there was been no improvements since contacting them by email.
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Bryce, you order from Florida Hills? I didn't think anyone did from here anymore.
I get my plants from same place but never had any issues like this.
Never noway! Last time I bought something from a company was early last year and that was from greens nursery and that was the last time. Went over with my neighbor and filled my truck up with bananas to bring back and sell at a plant sale and keep a few for myself. My neighbor kept a few and I kept a few. I ended up planting mine in the woods a few miles away to see what they would do because of the black spots. The rest that were not sold I threw in the garbage. My neighbor insisted on keeping his and trying but his did exactly the same as the ones I planted in the woods. His eventually rotted away and so did the ones in the woods. About 6 months ago I got to see some Florida hill stock someone had and that stock was riddled with the same looking mess I had on the plants from greens. Since my trip to greens I have only been getting my plants from the tropical agricultural research station in miami and rare plant collectors and I have a few other trusted dealers. I will never use mail order mass disaster again. Most all of my plants that I got in the beginning were named wrong also. So far my only purchase from early on that was named correct was my tall red and I started with about 20 plants. If the companies can't control disease or name the plants correct I would never suggest using them. If someone is doing fine using them that is great but for me it just does not work out.
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Plantains are very cold sensitive so depending on where you are located it probably wasn't a good purchase for this time of the year.

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I just joined, because I was hoping y'all could help me. I have never grown bananas before, but I received my first two in the mail yesterday from Wellspring Gardens. The Dwarf Puerto Rican has brown spots on the leaf, on the stem and on the new leaf that hasn't even opened yet, that just grew out since yesterday. Is this normal shipping stress, or does it just show that it didn't get the care that it wanted and I can nurse it back to health, or could it have one of those dangerous banana diseases?

The other banana plant seems okay, except for browning where a couple of leaves were cut off.

What should I do with this little Dwarf Puerto Rican? I don't want to never be able to keep bananas, because the first order I received had a disease! Should I trash this little guy or is everything okay?

Thanks so much!

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