What seeds have sent up multiple sprouts for you?

Tropicallvr · 05-18-2007, 11:49 AM

Thought it might be interesting to find out what species have sent up multiple sprouts from a single seed. So far for me-
Musa acuminata Dwarf China- About 10 of 30 had multiples
Musa cheesmanii- 1 out of about 80
Musa sikkimensisXparadisica 2 of 2 sprouted had multiples
Ensete ventricosum 1 out of about 60 had multiples

Maybe they all do it, just some more frequently?

bigdog · 07-04-2007, 09:35 PM

Kyle,

I just recently sprouted a Musa ornata 'Orange flower' from RPS that sent up two sprouts. That's the first one that's done that for me.

mrbungalow · 07-05-2007, 12:23 AM

For Helens' hybrid it has been the rule, not the exception here to send up multiple sprouts.

Gabe15 · 07-05-2007, 08:16 PM

I think it has a lot to do with hybrid origin and of course being polyembryonic. This could be one way though of telling (or at least suggesting) that the seed not a pure species, as it is not normal for wild species but mutations like this are common among hybrid varieties. Just my opinion...

51st state · 07-08-2007, 03:00 PM

yes very common on Helens. i just let them get on with it and then split them when their a bit bigger 6" maybe

halfagallon · 07-13-2007, 05:11 PM

Hello to everyone this is my first post on the forum i have four musa sikkimensis daj giant seeds that have germinated two of them have two sprouts on them i have to say this is the best germination of any musa seed i have tried does anybody have any information on the growth habits or the cold hardiness of this plant as all the information i can find about this plant says it is a new cultivar and it looks like no one has mature clumps

Lagniappe · 07-13-2007, 10:53 PM

I had greater than 50% germination with 'Daj giant' . The most robust of my seedlings are showing some veriegation . Some are getting nice red stripes in the leaves . About 30% had multiple sprouts , one with five .
I thought that I had lost some of these , they rotted to the ground and I forgot about them . Today I found that most came back and now have several leaves !

sandy0225 · 09-07-2007, 06:55 AM

Heck, I'm just happy if my banana seeds put up ONE sprout!

I just can't get the things to grow at all. I've planted 300 seeds this spring and got a big whopping 5 plants come up, and those were the free seeds that they sent me. So I put $20 dollars each on those trying to recoup my money.

I can't remember where I got them, but it was someplace where I could buy them by the 100's.

Red tiger sikkimensis is one of the kinds I'm trying.

On a happy note, one of the palm seeds I bought two years ago just sprouted! So I guess don't ever throw things away. Just let them linger in your greenhouse forever.....at least that doesn't hurt as bad as throwing all that money away....

ktbown · 11-03-2008, 10:45 AM

I am wondering if the multiple sprouts are 2 or more embryos in one seed....... I have grown many thousands of rose seeds and once in a while 2 plants will come from one seed..... kinda like twins... oddily sometimes the blooms of these will be different in petal count and color.........

Chironex · 11-03-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ktbown

I am wondering if the multiple sprouts are 2 or more embryos in one seed....... I have grown many thousands of rose seeds and once in a while 2 plants will come from one seed..... kinda like twins... oddily sometimes the blooms of these will be different in petal count and color.........

KT, I believe that is what Gabe was referring to above. Though I have never had a seed sprout 2 stems yet, I had not heard of it until today, so I learned something new. Thanks all.

Chironex · 11-03-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabe15

I think it has a lot to do with hybrid origin and of course being polyembryonic. This could be one way though of telling (or at least suggesting) that the seed not a pure species, as it is not normal for wild species but mutations like this are common among hybrid varieties. Just my opinion...

I used to go to school with her, Polyembryonic.

Bob · 11-03-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chironex

I used to go to school with her, Polyembryonic.

Wasn't she the lead singer of an English punk band in the late 70's?

buzzwinder · 11-03-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob

Wasn't she the lead singer of an English punk band in the late 70's?

Wasn't that Underdogs girlfriend ( Sweet Polly Purebread ) cousin or an alter ego?

No offense intended, Sorry, I just couldn't resist!!

musa_monkey · 11-09-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob

Wasn't she the lead singer of an English punk band in the late 70's?

Twas Poly Styrene ( X ray specs)

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