Musa Velutina Experiment - Page 2

AllenF · 03-19-2007, 07:53 AM

Another week.

No change.

Allen

AllenF · 03-26-2007, 05:57 PM

Still no Change.

I will post when there is some activity.

Allen

MediaHound · 04-15-2007, 12:01 PM

wiki wiki
http://www.bananas.org/wiki/Musa_Velutina

AllenF · 04-30-2007, 06:14 PM

The electric heater that I was using to bottom heat the seed failed and has been replaced today with the suns heat which varies between 32 C(90 F and 17 C(65 F) throughout the day.

There has been no other change.

Allen

AllenF · 05-27-2007, 03:04 PM

The seeds have been 3 1/2 months with no results. Most others including those who received seeds from the same batch have had germination in 3 months with little or no additional effort.

This particular experiment indicates that scarification, sterile media, hot water treatment and varying temperatures has no positive affect on germination.

Allen

Gabe15 · 05-27-2007, 04:49 PM

The germination of banana seeds is very complicated and still not well understood even by professionals in the field. One aspect of germination that is known though, is that there are chemical regulators within the seeds that (under optimal conditions) dictate when the seed will germinate, these can be "set" any where from a few weeks to a few years perhaps and will vary even within the same batch of seeds collected from the same plant. You will notice this when growing lots of seeds, they will sometimes germinate in waves, with many germinating at once each time.

So what I'm trying to say is, don't give up. I know a grower who had a whole batch of M. velutina seeds come up overnight 2 years after planting.

AllenF · 05-28-2007, 01:07 AM

Thanks.

I'm not giving up, just ending the experiment.

I think that I will plant the seed in several containers and put them outside in the sun, keep them moist and hope for the best.

Allen

MediaHound · 05-28-2007, 10:28 AM

I just had a canna seed come up from over a year ago...

D_&_T · 10-16-2007, 09:29 PM

thanks Allen, as we too are trying some of Randy's seeds

Dan & Tara

AllenF · 11-18-2007, 02:29 PM

Throughout the summer I had no germination.

Further research seems to indicate that heat in excess of 100* F will kill or damage the seeds ability to germinate.

I may have killed all of the seed on the first day.

I am participating in a second experiment with seed from Randy. I will record results here when there is anything to record.

The 2nd time is a charm, I hope.

Allen

Chironex · 10-19-2008, 08:08 PM

So what ever happened to this experiment?

03-19-2007, 07:53 AM	#21 (permalink)
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03-26-2007, 05:57 PM	#22 (permalink)
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04-30-2007, 06:14 PM	#24 (permalink)
AllenF Junior Member AllenF's Photo Gallery Location: Edmonton, Alberta Find me on the map! Zone: 3a Name: Allen Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 151 BananaBucks : 1,553 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 22 Thanked 32 Times in 31 Posts Welcomes: 5	Re: Musa Velutina Experiment The electric heater that I was using to bottom heat the seed failed and has been replaced today with the suns heat which varies between 32 C(90 F and 17 C(65 F) throughout the day. There has been no other change. Allen __________________ You don't have to be crazy to grow Bananas in Alberta, but it helps

05-27-2007, 03:04 PM	#25 (permalink)
AllenF Junior Member AllenF's Photo Gallery Location: Edmonton, Alberta Find me on the map! Zone: 3a Name: Allen Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 151 BananaBucks : 1,553 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 22 Thanked 32 Times in 31 Posts Welcomes: 5	Re: Musa Velutina Experiment The seeds have been 3 1/2 months with no results. Most others including those who received seeds from the same batch have had germination in 3 months with little or no additional effort. This particular experiment indicates that scarification, sterile media, hot water treatment and varying temperatures has no positive affect on germination. Allen __________________ You don't have to be crazy to grow Bananas in Alberta, but it helps

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05-27-2007, 04:49 PM	#26 (permalink)
Gabe15 MC Banana Commander Gabe15's Photo Gallery Location: Honolulu, HI Find me on the map! Zone: 11 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,537 BananaBucks : 16,556 Feedback: 4 / 100% Thanks: 1 Thanked 772 Times in 322 Posts Welcomes: 1	Re: Musa Velutina Experiment The germination of banana seeds is very complicated and still not well understood even by professionals in the field. One aspect of germination that is known though, is that there are chemical regulators within the seeds that (under optimal conditions) dictate when the seed will germinate, these can be "set" any where from a few weeks to a few years perhaps and will vary even within the same batch of seeds collected from the same plant. You will notice this when growing lots of seeds, they will sometimes germinate in waves, with many germinating at once each time. So what I'm trying to say is, don't give up. I know a grower who had a whole batch of M. velutina seeds come up overnight 2 years after planting. __________________ The only hemp Im growing is Manila.

05-28-2007, 01:07 AM	#27 (permalink)
AllenF Junior Member AllenF's Photo Gallery Location: Edmonton, Alberta Find me on the map! Zone: 3a Name: Allen Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 151 BananaBucks : 1,553 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 22 Thanked 32 Times in 31 Posts Welcomes: 5	Re: Musa Velutina Experiment Thanks. I'm not giving up, just ending the experiment. I think that I will plant the seed in several containers and put them outside in the sun, keep them moist and hope for the best. Allen __________________ You don't have to be crazy to grow Bananas in Alberta, but it helps

05-28-2007, 10:28 AM	#28 (permalink)
MediaHound Tally-man MediaHound's Photo Gallery Location: South Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 10b Name: Jarred Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,022 BananaBucks : 54,198 Feedback: 58 / 100% Thanks: 929 Thanked 1,099 Times in 383 Posts Welcomes: 246	Re: Musa Velutina Experiment I just had a canna seed come up from over a year ago...

10-16-2007, 09:29 PM	#29 (permalink)
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11-18-2007, 02:29 PM	#30 (permalink)
AllenF Junior Member AllenF's Photo Gallery Location: Edmonton, Alberta Find me on the map! Zone: 3a Name: Allen Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 151 BananaBucks : 1,553 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 22 Thanked 32 Times in 31 Posts Welcomes: 5	Re: Musa Velutina Experiment Throughout the summer I had no germination. Further research seems to indicate that heat in excess of 100* F will kill or damage the seeds ability to germinate. I may have killed all of the seed on the first day. I am participating in a second experiment with seed from Randy. I will record results here when there is anything to record. The 2nd time is a charm, I hope. Allen __________________ You don't have to be crazy to grow Bananas in Alberta, but it helps Last edited by AllenF : 11-18-2007 at 02:34 PM. Reason: Add information

10-19-2008, 08:08 PM	#31 (permalink)
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