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Banana Seed Germination Forum As one of the toughest seeds in the plant kingdom to figure out the keys to germination success with, this is a forum with banana seed germination tips. Please entitle posts like "Musa balbisiana," or "Musa cheesmani," etc. People would then post a reply under that heading, sharing their germination successes (and failures), what materials and methods they used, germination percentage, etc.

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Old 04-19-2008, 10:39 PM   #41 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: germination guide

Hm... this is weird though.. I never heard of smoked vermiculite that can be sprinkled on top... I don't think just sprinkling the vermiculite will do. I use Smoke primer, which produces a solution where you soak seeds... I would tend to think that more smoke goes into the seed. Anybody tried that? On any kinds of seeds?
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I like the thought of the smoke primer that u use to soak the seeds. Where do you find it and what is the name of the product? Perhaps you could post a link to it....

I am all for something that improves germination and reduces the waiting time.
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I did a little Googling about this and found this link that appears to be what all the other links are selling:

Accessories for Growing Proteas

Some of the links specifically mentioned for Musa germination. I am thinking of trying it to see if there is a marked difference. Will post my results if I do.
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Default Re: germination guide

Just a follow-up note regarding the smoke treatment. I found this on seedman.com and wanted everyone to see it and comment:
Jim Johnson, Seedman is now the North America Distributor for the CAPE "Instant Smoke Plus" Seed Primer that we use in our own greenhouses. We find we receive significantly better germination results when we use this primer on Musa, palms, tropical, wildflower and other types of seeds. (underlining added) find it here: Cape Seed Germination Primer
I am also experimenting with GA3 - did a 5 day soak in 250 ppm GA3 solution on Balbisiana and Darjeeling. Planted them 2 days ago and will let you know how they fare. I did not nick the seeds, but may try this too in my next batch to see if it makes any difference.
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I have tried smoke-disks, GA3, and various raindances without much luck.
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1. Get a soil that is bacteria free(cook in oven to sterilize) Or buy seed starting mix. Coco peat & perlite mixed togher is a good medium for sprouting. Get zip lock baggies to place the seeds in, the bigger the bag the better, I have cooked seeds in too small of a bag. Half gallon or gallon size I think is best.
2. Get a heat mat with an appliance timer(bought seperatly), and set up in a cooler room(60F) in your house. Put some sort of tray(seedling flat) on heat mat, so baggies aren't directly on the mat.
3.Soak seeds for about 24-48(or more) hours changing the water daily. Some seeds have alot of banana pulp and might need to be scrubbed a few times as they soak. After they are done soaking, give them a scrub and rinse with either diluted hydrogen peroxide, or a 10% bleach solution. Some bleach clings to seeds and makes them feel slimey, and if this is the case give them a extra dish soap wash to get the bleach off.
4. Hydrate your soil medium, just to the point of moist, but not dripping moist. I ussaly run a drip into the baggy as I stir it as the water drips in. Not too wet not too dry. Then sprinkle the seeds on the surface, and sprinkle a little soil on them, just so they are barley covered.
5. Set you timer for being on from anywhere from 5 hours on to 12 hours on. It's up to you I've had results with short and long, but now I do around 7-8 hours on.
6. Check regularly by hand or with an outdoor thermometer the soil to make sure it isn't getting too hot, and raise your tray off the heat mat if it is. I have lost alot of seeds from frying them. If your soil is drying out then it's probably too hot.
6. No need for a light to germinate them, they will do it in pitch black, but you'll need to check them almost every day, because if you miss a seedling that has sprouted and they stretch too much for light then they use all their reserves, and don't have enough energy to produce the first leaf, then they bend over and die. Be careful not to expose them to full sunshine too quickly either if they have been in a dark place.
Some species are fine to dig up out of the baggies and seperate from the soil before it has it's first leaf, and some are really touchy and you must leave them in the baggy till they have a leaf.
when they are ready just put new potted seedling in a warm well lit place(morning sun), or artificial light, and let it go to town, fetilizing lightly after 3 or so leaf leafs have been put out.
LMK if I missed anything that your wondering about. I HOPE YOU GET SOME SPROUTS!
Excellent guide i have a load of seeds arriving today and i was wondering what mix of coco peat and perlite you use, thanks mark
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Is there some reason that banana seeds should need smoke stratification? I am new to this forum because i've been looking for stuff on growing chinese dwarf banana from seed. It didn't work the first time i bought them, so im having to get serious about this batch, and i also fell in love with the looks of it, i may look for other cool bananas and good to eat ones too.
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Excellent guide i have a load of seeds arriving today and i was wondering what mix of coco peat and perlite you use, thanks mark
Thanks Mark, somtimes I use straight coco peat, but mostly I like to mix in about 1/4 to 1/3 parts perlite.

Gold3nku5h- If you are talking about Musellea lasiocarpa, then you'll need to place them in a fridge for a few weeks before hand. They seem to be one of the only banana seeds that need cold straitification.
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I fell in love with the ensete superbum I saw growing here recently, and now I know the reason why there were no pups - I want to grow my own from seed. Bearing in mind that I cannot get anything special and can only sterilize the compost and supply warmth (lots of it), are there any tips anybody can give me before I start? I haven't ordered seeds yet.

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Cassie - what was the reason why you couldn't get pups to produce? Is there a chance that raising a plant from seed that it may not produce pups for some reason? Or did i miss interperet your message?
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