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HenkM2000 09-12-2016 02:49 PM

'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Hi Everyone!
I have the opportunity to get seeds of a lot of different banana species. I can get extra seeds for anyone who's interested. I will have to pay in advance, so please transfer the money before September 18th, because I'm going to order them then. Sorry though... This is my paypal: henk.v.d.meulen@home.nl
These are the species:

- ensete glaucum ~15 seeds €10
- e. superbum ~8 seeds €6
- e. ventricosum ~8 seeds €5,50
- musa acuminata cavendish ~15 seeds €12,50
- m. acuminata cv. dwarf ~8 seeds €7
- m. acuminata ssp. sumatrana ~8 seeds €6
- m. balbisiana Altia black ~8 seeds €7
- m. balbisiana gigantea ~15 seeds €12,50
- m. balbisiana var. balbisiana ~8 seeds €7
- m. bauensis ~10 seeds €19
- m. beccarii var. beccarii ~8 seeds €15
- m. borneensis var. borneensis ~7 seeds €15
- m. campestris var. limbangestris light ~3 seeds €12
- m. campestris var. miriensis ~7 seeds €12
- m. cheesmanii ~7 seeds €8 (cold hardy)
- m. coccinea uranoscopus ~15 seeds €12
- m. helens ~8 seeds €6
- m. hirta ~10 seeds €14,50
- m. itinerans ~15 seeds €9
- m. lasiocarpa ~15 seeds €9,50
- m. laterita ~6 seeds €4,50
- m. mannii ~10 seeds €12,75
- m. monticola kanibalu ~7 seeds €19
- m. muluensis ~7 seeds €8,50
- m. nagensium ~10 seeds €7,50
- m. ornata orange ~6 seeds €4
- m. ornata pink ~6 seeds €4
- m. ornata purple ~7 seeds €5
- m. paradisiaca ~6 seeds €4
- m. royal purple ~8 seeds €7
- m. sakaiana ~10 seeds €12
- m. schizocarpa ~10 seeds €16,50 (self splitting banana)
- m. sikkimensis daj giant ~8 seeds €7,50
- m. sikkimensis manipur ~8 seeds €6
- m. sikkimensis red flash ~6 seeds €6
- m. sikkimensis red tiger ~6 seeds €5
- m. sp. Burmese blue ~ 15 seeds €14
- m. thomsonii ~7 seeds €5,50
- m. velutina ~6 seeds €4
- m. violacea ~6 seeds €4
- m. voonii ~7 seeds €16
- m. yunnanensis ~8 seeds €7
- m. zebrina ~8 seeds €6

Shipping costs: €3 worldwide

Kind regards,
Henk

luisport 09-12-2016 02:55 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Hi and good luck!

CountryBoy1981 09-12-2016 09:03 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Probably fraud given he/she has 1 post (this post). Beware.

saxybill1 09-14-2016 06:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CountryBoy1981 (Post 298195)
Probably fraud given he/she has 1 post (this post). Beware.

Yes, I agree. Also his profile lacks a great deal of information plus only this post. I hope I'm wrong, but it does not appear that way. Additionally, he has not responded to your Post.

crazy banana 09-15-2016 01:34 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HenkM2000 (Post 298183)
Hi Everyone!
I have the opportunity to get seeds of a lot of different banana species. I can get extra seeds for anyone who's interested. I will have to pay in advance, so please transfer the money before September 18th, because I'm going to order them then. Sorry though... This is my paypal: henk.v.d.meulen@home.nl
These are the species:

- ensete glaucum ~15 seeds €10
- e. superbum ~8 seeds €6
- e. ventricosum ~8 seeds €5,50
- musa acuminata cavendish ~15 seeds €12,50
- m. acuminata cv. dwarf ~8 seeds €7
- m. acuminata ssp. sumatrana ~8 seeds €6
- m. balbisiana Altia black ~8 seeds €7
- m. balbisiana gigantea ~15 seeds €12,50
- m. balbisiana var. balbisiana ~8 seeds €7
- m. bauensis ~10 seeds €19
- m. beccarii var. beccarii ~8 seeds €15
- m. borneensis var. borneensis ~7 seeds €15
- m. campestris var. limbangestris light ~3 seeds €12
- m. campestris var. miriensis ~7 seeds €12
- m. cheesmanii ~7 seeds €8 (cold hardy)
- m. coccinea uranoscopus ~15 seeds €12
- m. helens ~8 seeds €6
- m. hirta ~10 seeds €14,50
- m. itinerans ~15 seeds €9
- m. lasiocarpa ~15 seeds €9,50
- m. laterita ~6 seeds €4,50
- m. mannii ~10 seeds €12,75
- m. monticola kanibalu ~7 seeds €19
- m. muluensis ~7 seeds €8,50
- m. nagensium ~10 seeds €7,50
- m. ornata orange ~6 seeds €4
- m. ornata pink ~6 seeds €4
- m. ornata purple ~7 seeds €5
- m. paradisiaca ~6 seeds €4
- m. royal purple ~8 seeds €7
- m. sakaiana ~10 seeds €12
- m. schizocarpa ~10 seeds €16,50 (self splitting banana)
- m. sikkimensis daj giant ~8 seeds €7,50
- m. sikkimensis manipur ~8 seeds €6
- m. sikkimensis red flash ~6 seeds €6
- m. sikkimensis red tiger ~6 seeds €5
- m. sp. Burmese blue ~ 15 seeds €14
- m. thomsonii ~7 seeds €5,50
- m. velutina ~6 seeds €4
- m. violacea ~6 seeds €4
- m. voonii ~7 seeds €16
- m. yunnanensis ~8 seeds €7
- m. zebrina ~8 seeds €6

Shipping costs: €3 worldwide

Kind regards,
Henk

Welcome to bananas.org, Henk.
Nice list. Please take a moment and introduce yourself properly in the Introductory Thread. Tell us a little more about the source of your seeds and why your source (or you) are trustworthy to buy from.
Myself, I don't do banana seeds because there are reputable sellers like Jon from "webebananas" in California or Don and Katie from "goingbananas" in Florida (just to mention a few), that sell plants and pups of the same varieties for only a fraction more what seeds plus shipping from overseas would cost, not to mention the risk of seeds getting confiscated because of non existing phytosanitary certificates.
Nonetheless, I wish you the best of luck and maybe if you start to post a little about yourself and participate in various discussions here on bananas.org, post photos etc., people might be less suspicious and might actually take the risk of growing musa from seeds.

jmoore 09-15-2016 01:56 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
I grow all my bananas from seed - for me that's the fun and the challenge. If people aren't growing Musa Rubinea, Arunachalensis, Coccinea, Zebrina, Ornata, Chunii then they are missing out. These would all be perfect for growing in a small garden and beautiful flowers.

Anyway that post did look a bit suspicious.

Don't limit yourselves to just growing bananas for fruit there is a whole world of species bananas out there.

saxybill1 09-15-2016 04:25 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmoore (Post 298281)
I grow all my bananas from seed - for me that's the fun and the challenge. If people aren't growing Musa Rubinea, Arunachalensis, Coccinea, Zebrina, Ornata, Chunii then they are missing out. These would all be perfect for growing in a small garden and beautiful flowers.

Anyway that post did look a bit suspicious.

Don't limit yourselves to just growing bananas for fruit there is a whole world of species bananas out there.

Yes, you are right. I have recently started seeds to include ones I am unable to find as plants such as Helens hybrid. This is my first attempt with banana seeds, wish me luck.

saxybill1 09-15-2016 06:14 PM

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By the way, Cavendesh don't have seeds.

Kat2 09-15-2016 07:25 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saxybill1 (Post 298295)
By the way, Cavendesh don't have seeds.

Actually they do but they're not viable. A very nice little old lady who I caught snipping seed pods from my plants when I lived in MD (I didn't mind her pruning my plant but "snagged her" because I wanted to meet another gardener) grew a wonderful fig from a seed she saved from a dried fig served to her on a plane from her native Germany. Very rare for that to happen. Wish I still had my tree from hers or a start. Divorce stinks.

merce3 09-15-2016 08:40 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saxybill1 (Post 298295)
By the way, Cavendesh don't have seeds.

it can produce seeds, but i am not sure if they are true to type.

Jose263 09-16-2016 07:05 AM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmoore (Post 298281)
I grow all my bananas from seed - for me that's the fun and the challenge. If people aren't growing Musa Rubinea, Arunachalensis, Coccinea, Zebrina, Ornata, Chunii then they are missing out. These would all be perfect for growing in a small garden and beautiful flowers.

Anyway that post did look a bit suspicious.

Don't limit yourselves to just growing bananas for fruit there is a whole world of species bananas out there.

OK - you guys have perked my interest in growing musa from seeds. Thus far I've limited myself to edibles that might survive in zone 9.
I agree - the guy with the list is probably bogus..
So, where do members get your seeds? Anyone want to trade?
Is this a good source TopTropicals.com - rare plants for home and garden What do you recommend for zone 9 and beauty?
Thanks

PR-Giants 09-16-2016 03:01 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kat2 (Post 298300)
Actually they do but they're not viable.

Banana and Plantain Breeding Program at the Honduran Foundation for Agricultural Research (FHIA), starting in 2002, pollinated 20,000 bunches, approximately 2 million fingers, of the Cavendish cultivars ‘Grand Naine’ and ‘Williams’ with pollen from 10 Cavendish cultivars for the development of Cavendish tetraploids. As a result, 200 seeds with 40 viable embryos were obtained, from which 20 tetraploid hybrids were developed.




Stover and Simmonds (1987) indicated that the sterility of the clones cultivated for the international trade is a consequence of the high inherent female sterility. Within the Cavendish group, seed production was not observed in the many thousands of pollinations conducted.

A second exception came in the 1990s when FHIA obtained one seed from the cross of ‘Williams’ as female parent and ‘SH-3142’ as male parent; this seed developed into a tetraploid plant that was named ‘FHIA-02’.

saxybill1 09-16-2016 04:13 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 298333)
Banana and Plantain Breeding Program at the Honduran Foundation for Agricultural Research (FHIA), starting in 2002, pollinated 20,000 bunches, approximately 2 million fingers, of the Cavendish cultivars ‘Grand Naine’ and ‘Williams’ with pollen from 10 Cavendish cultivars for the development of Cavendish tetraploids. As a result, 200 seeds with 40 viable embryos were obtained, from which 20 tetraploid hybrids were developed.




Stover and Simmonds (1987) indicated that the sterility of the clones cultivated for the international trade is a consequence of the high inherent female sterility. Within the Cavendish group, seed production was not observed in the many thousands of pollinations conducted.

A second exception came in the 1990s when FHIA obtained one seed from the cross of ‘Williams’ as female parent and ‘SH-3142’ as male parent; this seed developed into a tetraploid plant that was named ‘FHIA-02’.


Thank you Keith, I could not have said it better.

Kat2 09-16-2016 06:47 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Sure and 69 year old grandmothers get pregnant without medical/scientific assistance. I doubt the Cavendish seeds being offered are the result of a breeding program.

PR-Giants 10-01-2016 12:05 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kat2 (Post 298343)
Sure and 69 year old grandmothers get pregnant without medical/scientific assistance. I doubt the Cavendish seeds being offered are the result of a breeding program.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kat2 (Post 298300)
Actually they do but they're not viable. A very nice little old lady who I caught snipping seed pods from my plants when I lived in MD (I didn't mind her pruning my plant but "snagged her" because I wanted to meet another gardener) grew a wonderful fig from a seed she saved from a dried fig served to her on a plane from her native Germany. Very rare for that to happen. Wish I still had my tree from hers or a start. Divorce stinks.


Kat2 10-01-2016 01:04 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
What's your point? Mine is that many fruits contain seeds but the overwhelming majority of those seeds will not grow any type of plant much less germinate. Even as I child I didn't believe you'd grow a watermelon plant inside of you if you swallowed the seeds. I wasn't so sure about apples or oranges but, after exhaustive "oops" tests, figured out that they were not "humanly invasive". Gum? Got caught with it in class a few times and made it disappear so I could honestly say "I'm not chewing gum". I am and have always been painfully honest--sometimes I'd kill to lie with a straight non flushed face as many others do. I was a bit concerned about the effects of that foreign substance for about a minute; my daddy was a PhD in physics and said that gum passed on through and I believed him because daddy's know everything or mine did.

PR-Giants 10-23-2016 07:31 PM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Instead of continuing to write more nonsense just explain why you believe Cavendish are a seeded banana.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kat2 (Post 298675)
What's your point? Mine is that many fruits contain seeds but the overwhelming majority of those seeds will not grow any type of plant much less germinate. Even as I child I didn't believe you'd grow a watermelon plant inside of you if you swallowed the seeds. I wasn't so sure about apples or oranges but, after exhaustive "oops" tests, figured out that they were not "humanly invasive". Gum? Got caught with it in class a few times and made it disappear so I could honestly say "I'm not chewing gum". I am and have always been painfully honest--sometimes I'd kill to lie with a straight non flushed face as many others do. I was a bit concerned about the effects of that foreign substance for about a minute; my daddy was a PhD in physics and said that gum passed on through and I believed him because daddy's know everything or mine did.


saxybill1 10-24-2016 09:36 AM

Re: 'Pre-order' for banana species
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 299360)
Instead of continuing to write more nonsense just explain why you believe Cavendish are a seeded banana.

I would very much like to hear Kat explain his position and of course based on facts at least as well as pr has presented his position based on a cumulative of factual information.


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