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Tissue Culturing & Other Propagation Techniques of Banana Plants This forum is for discussing propagation techniques of banana plants. Tissue culturing is the popular process of creating clones from a source plant. There are other techniques to propagate banana plants however, such as nicking corms or dividing corms. Learn more inside.


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Old 06-17-2017, 06:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hello, I would to know the experience of other people rooting banana pups, when you separate it from the mother plant is better let it dry the wound few days?, it is advisable to root first in pots with good soil or plant them directly on the ground, it is good practice to place the pups in water for a few hours with fungicide and rooting hormone before planting?

I do not have much experience so I appreciate any advice.
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Old 06-17-2017, 06:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I am no expert but with most plants, the sooner they are back in the ground the better. Bananas are not likely any different. I have done this with several pups and all are doing fine.
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I cut mine off and put them in well drained pots to start them, if the leaves start to yellow, to much sun, put them in a little shade. I will place them near the mother until they get going as that's the light they are use to.
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Hello, I would to know the experience of other people rooting banana pups, when you separate it from the mother plant is better let it dry the wound few days?, it is advisable to root first in pots with good soil or plant them directly on the ground, it is good practice to place the pups in water for a few hours with fungicide and rooting hormone before planting?

I do not have much experience so I appreciate any advice.
Many forum members have a different process for success with pups.
And generally they all work.
There are some good threads already on the subject which are discussed in detail....just pick and choose what you think is most beneficial for you.
If you have rooting hormone already go ahead and use it.
There is alot of info to go through.
Also Youtube offers some great videos on seperation and planting practices of your new pup.

Here is a thread to get started.
You can find other threads if you use the search tool also.
It details some basics.
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No need to let the wound dry or use rooting hormone provided you put the separated pup into warm, well draining soil or soiless potting mix.
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No need to let the wound dry or use rooting hormone provided you put the separated pup into warm, well draining soil or soiless potting mix.

This depends on if you had to cut and clean the corm or not. When cleaning weevils out of nanners I often let them "scab" over for a few days. This also depends on how much is cut off the corm.

Bananas are generally bullet proof.
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I killed tons of banana plants until I stopped taking such good care of them. I try to get the biggest corm I can and then let it lay under the trees for a few days. I then dig a hole and toss it in. I don't water it or anything other than dump oak leaves around it. My success rate has gone way up that way. Pretty much don't lose any now. If I order corms I often request them shipped dry. More often than not I just get a black mushy corm if they don't.
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depends alot on how much root and corm you get
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I have tested several ways. Including everything listed above. I have received everything from rotten corms, corms sent around the world, tiny TC plantlets sent from the USDA Tars. My own cut corms. And tiny Nubs off those corms. Everyone has a different way that works best for them! So there is no wrong way if you have good success with it.

I have read a study about corm roots (non banana) but similar roots. The big roots you see are "transport roots" you can compare banana roots to our circulatory system. The veins and arteries are the "transport roots" the fine hair roots and microscopic roots are the important ones that do the important work. When you expose those roots to air and even worse the sun! They burn up quickly. Within a few minutes the fine hair roots and the ones you can't even see are GONE. Dried and burnt up. This is why in my opinion it is very important to wrap and seal the roots fast as possible. I've noticed a HUGE difference since I've started doing this. Try it! It will cut back days of transplant shock!!

The best way I have found is these for each situation. My way takes work but I have had by far the best results doing this. If anyone has questions on details, etc just PM anytime. Im happy to share all my methods!

If I'm digging the pup for someone (Shipping) the best method is: Before you start have paper towels and a plastic bag ready. Dig the pup and Immediately wrap the roots with paper towels,make them moist (mist on faucet head is awesome), plastic, seal with tape. And your done.

If I'm digging for myself to plant: I dig the plant and immediately plant it into my same mix 50/50 potting soil and perlite. Put it in full shade and water once per 7 days until I have a full leaf out! And I let it grow until I get a tight rootball then i plant into the ground being very careful not to break the rootball. If you don't break the rootball you will have NO transplant shock.

If the corm is wrapped in moist paper or paper towels: I unwrap it and plant into a pot with 50% premium potting soil and other 50% perlite! Then I do the "digging for myself" above.

If it's dry out shipped from someone: I clean the corm. Take off all old roots and any soft corm then reroot in course sand. After a few days I check for roots and transfer to the same 50/50 mix and do the "doing it for myself" above.

If the corm is shipped rooted and in soil: your done, if it has a good rootball transplant it to the ground.
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I agree with everything Ty said.
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If I'm digging the pup for someone (Shipping) the best method is: Before you start have paper towels and a plastic bag ready. Dig the pup and Immediately wrap the roots with paper towels, plastic, seal with tape. And your done.

damp paper towel or leave dry?
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Sorry. Damp paper towels! Not dry! Not dripping wet but make sure it's wet all over! I'll edit my post to correct this. Thanks for letting me know!
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dito to ty he has it right its pretty simple especially about keeping roots moist if i cant replant in15 min or less I store in 5 gal bucket with water for a hour or two
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I'm probably a few weeks away from overwintering, but my m. Manzano has two pups. Is it even safe to remove them and damage the mother corm so close to digging it up anyways?
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I'm probably a few weeks away from overwintering, but my m. Manzano has two pups. Is it even safe to remove them and damage the mother corm so close to digging it up anyways?
I have to make some decisions soon also...separated my tree ferns out today for the big day to go indoors.

This stage in the late game I would keep them on till spring, for any plant.
Especially in our similar zones.

I believe it is better for the plant ....Because in a few months it will be under a lot of stress even more. Even if your are going to toss the pups.

I put lots of containers away for the winter with many,many pups in the same container and have no issues with them.

Now if you plant to put the plant under pro grade grow lighting then go ahead.

But this is just me.

Some of the fellas in 4a might a different take
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I have to make some decisions soon also...separated my tree ferns out today for the big day to go indoors.

This stage in the late game I would keep them on till spring, for any plant.
Especially in our similar zones.

I believe it is better for the plant ....Because in a few months it will be under a lot of stress even more. Even if your are going to toss the pups.

I put lots of containers away for the winter with many,many pups in the same container and have no issues with them.

Now if you plant to put the plant under pro grade grow lighting then go ahead.

But this is just me.

Some of the fellas in 4a might a different take
So does your answer change if I say that I have a 1000w MH in my basement ?

I'm equally worried about the pups and the mother plant if I removed them so close to storage for the mother but over winter growing for the pups

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Old 09-19-2017, 07:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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So does your answer change if I say that I have a 1000w MH in my basement ?

I'm equally worried about the pups and the mother plant if I removed them so close to storage for the mother but over winter growing for the pups
Your lighting sounds excellent to grow your plants...as well as the grow tent you have.....


I would still not separate the fellas till spring though...

If my plants are not actively growing I will not separate or do major root disruption before fall..

The pups generally do not distract from the overwintering
Pups still connected to the main plant manage under lights , mine do; they might slow down a bit , but it is, what it is..

Once you separate the pups in late spring they will take off for you.
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