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Tissue Culturing & Other Propagation Techniques of Banana Plants This forum is for discussing propagation techniques of banana plants. Tissue culturing is the popular process of creating clones from a source plant. There are other techniques to propagate banana plants however, such as nicking corms or dividing corms. Learn more inside.


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Old 10-21-2013, 10:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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About two days ago, I noticed what I thought was a root growing from the base of my Basjoo straight out onto the soil so I covered it with a little bit of potting mix. Today I was watering, and I noticed that it has now curved upward, and has maybe a hint of green. Is this a pup, should I cover it up a little since it and the mother plants connection was showing on top of the soil? My Basjoo was already trying to form one pup that looked like a pup on the surface, but this one looked like a root at first.


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About two days ago, I noticed what I thought was a root growing from the base of my Basjoo straight out onto the soil so I covered it with a little bit of potting mix. Today I was watering, and I noticed that it has now curved upward, and has maybe a hint of green. Is this a pup, should I cover it up a little since it and the mother plants connection was showing on top of the soil? My Basjoo was already trying to form one pup that looked like a pup on the surface, but this one looked like a root at first.
Wait until it is 6 inches or knee high, and you'll know for sure.
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Unfortunately I think you've just got a root there. The pups will start a bit deeper than that, be larger, and not resemble a root at all. Sorry :/
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Unfortunately I think you've just got a root there. The pups will start a bit deeper than that, be larger, and not resemble a root at all. Sorry :/
Oh well lol, back to the drawing board.
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Thats a root alright!
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If it yaps like a puppy, it is definitely a pup. But even if it does nor yap, it is still a pup,
even though it emerges very close to the PS. Roots have more sense than growing skyward.
It looks like the corm could use a bit more cover and that that is the reason for the confusion

The reason it is not green yet is because it had been covered.

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It is a bit odd that its growing up instead of down, but I dunno, this was my first Banana lol
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Okay I am pretty sure now its a pup, its growing way too vertical and is green. There is another one starting beside it on the left. I looked at the roots below and they look pretty much like roots. Does having the corm exposed a little induce pupping? Its not a very tall basjoo maybe like 2 1/2 feet.

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Looks like you need more mulch to cover up them roots.. :^)
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I do not know, what induces sprouting more pups sometimes, while other times there are few.
I have developed and discarded several views on that. When I brought home my ornata corm
it had about 7 or 8 eyes for pups, but only two emerged. Would there have been that many
pups, had the PS been left on? In order to get some answer you would have to dig up quite a
number of plants, count the eyes, replant them and see what happens, And then it would not
be clear either, if the interruption had any impact.

After all sometimes just moving a pot to a new place can cause an interruption of growth,
other times not. Go figure!

But I do agree with Migael, that, when you repot it or plant it outside, you should provide
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But I do agree with Migael, that, when you repot it or plant it outside, you should provide more cover.
I have noticed as a corm expands it will grow more shallow roots so adding more cover is just a necessity. Pups on the other hand are best just left to come naturally.. If its what you truly desire Azomite, and Rooting Hormone from GreenLight both work effectively to bring on the pups. :^)
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Judging from the photo, there does not appear to be any room in this pot to add more of
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Judging from the photo, there does not appear to be any room in this pot to add more of
anything to the top. Any additional cover may have to wait for re-potting.
.But, but, but...there's always room for Jello!

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Some barky mulch on top could be added if desired. Even if it "hangs over", if carefully watered it can be controlled and would aid in darkening roots/pups.
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... Does having the corm exposed a little induce pupping? ...
In my experience, cramped growing conditions are the best inducers of pups. For example, to propagate several pups from another: I'd plant it in a 15 gallon pot outside in the summer (or indoors under summer-like conditions) and feed it on a regular basis. When the roots of the corm hit the pot walls, rhizomes will soon follow and pups shortly after that.
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Looks like the beginnings of a water pup.. :^)
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