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Tissue Culturing & Other Propagation Techniques of Banana Plants This forum is for discussing propagation techniques of banana plants. Tissue culturing is the popular process of creating clones from a source plant. There are other techniques to propagate banana plants however, such as nicking corms or dividing corms. Learn more inside.


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I just watched a few videos on grafting. Anybody ever try this ? How's the success rate ? Any info would be appreciated.
I got a few ideas but don't want to waste the pups for nothing
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I got a few ideas but don't want to waste the pups for nothing
There are multiple biological requirements for grafting. Bananas do not qualify because they are a monocot.
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Grafting mature banana specimens: https://youtu.be/8NlcBw7AxAY

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The poster of that video, Mauro Gibo is a member here and has a thread or two on the subject. He was not successful in his efforts.
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Seen another video where they joined 2 pups, after 30 days they chopped one of the plants down. The problem with these videos is that you don't hear about the end result
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Seen another video where they joined 2 pups, after 30 days they chopped one of the plants down. The problem with these videos is that you don't hear about the end result
He reports in one of his threads here that it failed.
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Well, Jeffaroo, I am the only one in the forum, doing this kind of stuff. I think I started grafting banana plants around 2007, after I heard some banana growers in South America grafted banana plants, but nothing is certain. For most people I think it's a waste of time. The Lady Fingers and the Raja Puris I grafted on the Musa Basjoo stock as the scion did not survive the winter in my region, although I graft banana plants every year. Last year I grafted the Musa Balbisiana with the Basjoo and for the first time they survived the winter and are already growing this spring. This is a lifetime experiment and only a banana maniac like myself will do it. One way or another, by grafting or by pollination I will come out with a cold hardy species using the Musa Basjoo as the prime material. I was able to collect Basjoo seeds from my Basjoo blooms in the spring last year and I planted them in pots. At present I have 11 seedlings growing quite well. All the people I know have only Basjoo clones. What I want to say is that I haven't been successful in grafting bananas yet. If you want to try is up to you, if you do try, I think you should have a green house to protect the plants in the winter which I do not have. Best Wishes,
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Well, Jeffaroo, I am the only one in the forum, doing this kind of stuff. I think I started grafting banana plants around 2007, after I heard some banana growers in South America grafted banana plants, but nothing is certain. For most people I think it's a waste of time. The Lady Fingers and the Raja Puris I grafted on the Musa Basjoo stock as the scion did not survive the winter in my region, although I graft banana plants every year. Last year I grafted the Musa Balbisiana with the Basjoo and for the first time they survived the winter and are already growing this spring. This is a lifetime experiment and only a banana maniac like myself will do it. One way or another, by grafting or by pollination I will come out with a cold hardy species using the Musa Basjoo as the prime material. I was able to collect Basjoo seeds from my Basjoo blooms in the spring last year and I planted them in pots. At present I have 11 seedlings growing quite well. All the people I know have only Basjoo clones. What I want to say is that I haven't been successful in grafting bananas yet. If you want to try is up to you, if you do try, I think you should have a green house to protect the plants in the winter which I do not have. Best Wishes,
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Mauro - I've never tried grafting bananas -but I do graft other plants - typically grafting is done to change the rootstock to a different variety -like adding apple or pear scions to a tree. So, what do you expect to get by joining two corms and pstems? I can see possibly developing new species via pollinating the flowers? just wondering?
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Mauro - I've never tried grafting bananas -but I do graft other plants - typically grafting is done to change the rootstock to a different variety -like adding apple or pear scions to a tree. So, what do you expect to get by joining two corms and pstems? I can see possibly developing new species via pollinating the flowers? just wondering?
Hi Jose263! Gardening has been my hobby for the past 40 years. About 30 years ago I learned how to graft citrus fruits and other kinds of tropical fruits such as mangos, avocados, jabuticabas, etc., so I'm pretty familiar with the grafting method but sometimes I would get a "Chimera", ( an individual, organ, or part consisting of tissues of diverse genetic constitution), especially with the citrus plants. For example, I grafted the Chinese little lemon called Calamansi on the Okinawan Shikwasa which is a little orange. The Shikwasa is very vigorous because it's native in Okinawa so I used it as the stock. As the scion was the Calamansi, I expected my grafted plants to produce only Calamansi, but sometimes I picked fruits that where neither Calamansi nor Shikwasa, they were Chimeras, that is a cross-bred variety. Conclusion: Sometimes the stock can produce effects on the scion. So I got the idea that by joining the corms of two different types of banana plants by one chance in a million I would get a "Chimera" with the bananas, that is a cross-bred variety. This is just a very remote hypothesis but I believe it can happen if it happens with the citrus plants which I know is a fact. I haven't had any luck yet because at present I live in a cold region of Japan but in the other hand I have plenty of Basjoo specimens to experiment with. I would like to mention that the term grafting I used for my experiments is not correct. I will also try to polinate the basjoo with other types of edible bananas. Thank you for commenting on my impossible dream. Best Wishes to all. Mauro Gibo
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Thanks Richard, My native language is Portuguese and sometimes I get mixed up. "Especies", in Portuguese means types, varieties. Much obliged! Muito Obrigado! Also joining two corms of banana plants cannot be called grafting either. Sorry for my mistakes, Cheers!
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Mauro - I like your style. I also like to do crazy projects just because I'm told it can't be done. That's what got me into hydro & bananas. I may take a crack at this, I got about as many basjoo pups around here as I do dog turds. Keep me updated and good luck
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Hi, Jeffaroo! Here is some light on the history of the M. Basjoo in Japan. According to the "Hiyoshi Review of Natural Science", written by Isono Naohide of Keio University, the famous Budhist monk called Kukai, brought the M. Basjoo to Japan from the Tang Dinasty, China in the year 818 as a medicinal herb. This record is in the book "Shiki no Hana Jiten", Four-season Flowers Dictionary, written at the time of the introduction of the M. Basjoo along with other flowers from China. Then again in the year 1160, there is another record of the M. Basjoo in the book "Shokubutsu Toraiko" Remarks of Plants Brought Over" from overseas where there is a drawing and a discription of the plant. I'm going to post the original Bulletin, sorry it is all in Japanese: http://koara.lib.keio.ac.jp/xoonips/...?file_id=13125 Best wishes, Mauro Gibo
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Mauro - I like your style. I also like to do crazy projects just because I'm told it can't be done. That's what got me into hydro & bananas. I may take a crack at this, I got about as many basjoo pups around here as I do dog turds. Keep me updated and good luck
Hi jeffaroo! Here I am again! First of all, Greetings! I just made a new video today, if you have time please watch my video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDa2ZpedvXg

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