Wanted : M . Nagensium

Lagniappe · 06-15-2007, 11:40 AM

I would like to buy a Musa Nagenium or trade for it .
I have : Velutina ,zebrina , Itenerans , orinoco , williams cavendish , musella lasiocarpa , tropicanna canna , bird of paradise (white) , ice cream , rajapuri , dwarf orinoco , sikimmensis daj giant (seedlings) , ensete ventricosum (seedlings) , ensete maurellii , several alocasia / colocasia , and all sorts of rare tropical fish.
best regards,
Pete

Lagniappe · 06-22-2007, 06:44 PM

Anyone ? .......please?

Lagniappe · 06-23-2007, 07:28 PM

I also have some hugemongous Musa ornata "royal purple " or Musa Laterita corms . I'll post photos of this years flowers later .

Gabe15 · 06-23-2007, 08:04 PM

Musa nagensium is still rare and hard to find, the true ones are not even really in cultivation yet. You can buy seeds from Trebrown but plants are not in wide circulation yet, if at all.

mrbungalow · 06-24-2007, 04:29 AM

I have a load of them (grown from seeds from Trebrown). Anytime you come to Norway, bring a big suitcase.

Erlend

the flying dutchman · 06-24-2007, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbungalow

I have a load of them (grown from seeds from Trebrown). Anytime you come to Norway, bring a big suitcase.

Erlend

Erlend, whe don't have any picture of this one in the WIKI. Would be nice if you could upload one or two.

http://www.bananas.org/wiki/Musa_Nagensium

Ron

xyzzy · 06-27-2007, 05:46 AM

Zone 9 is too cold for them to thrive, so I don't think you will manage in zone 8 unless you have a very very big greenhouse.

Import/export prevents me sending to you, but I have a pile of rather dormant but not rotting corms here in the UK. I have given up on them as too tropical for zone 9.

mrbungalow · 06-27-2007, 08:00 AM

I should add: The seeds were sold to me as Musa NagensiumX, so most likely the plants are hybrids of some sort. All winter Gabe, Myself, and a few others discussed what these seeds really were, what the "True Nagensium" sold at Seedman were, and where musa cheesmani might fit in. I even wrote a mail to Markku Hakkinen in Finland trying to figure it out. So far I am not getting any smarter.

Gabe15 · 06-27-2007, 09:25 AM

I have seeds from Markku of a true M. nagensium variety he collected in the wild, the original form has not been seen in the wild for a long time, but this is newly discovered yellow budded variety is still a M. nagensium. I have not had any seeds germinate, but I plan to bring them with me to Hawaii to see if they would like to germinate better there.

barna · 06-27-2007, 12:49 PM

I have several hybrids of Musa nagensium 'Florale noir' sprouted and the one I planted in my garden survived outdoor in zone 9a.

2006........................................2007

I also have a "pure" nagensium from Tropengarten, that was to small to be overwintered outside. (This picture was taken last year)

It really looks different from the 'Florale Noir' form. It has more slender and glaucous leaves.

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xyzzy Tropically Bonkers Location: Devon, UK. Find me on the map! Zone: 9b, but UK so no sun, always raining and infested with slugs. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 120 BananaBucks : 29,297 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Wanted : M . Nagensium Zone 9 is too cold for them to thrive, so I don't think you will manage in zone 8 unless you have a very very big greenhouse. Import/export prevents me sending to you, but I have a pile of rather dormant but not rotting corms here in the UK. I have given up on them as too tropical for zone 9. __________________ There is no such thing as can't grow it - but the determination required may lose you your partner, family and friends - but does that matter?.

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mrbungalow Freezing member mrbungalow's Photo Gallery Location: Bergen, Norway Find me on the map! Zone: 8 Name: Erlend Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 598 BananaBucks : 70,432 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 14 Times Was Thanked 165 Times in 78 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Wanted : M . Nagensium I should add: The seeds were sold to me as Musa NagensiumX, so most likely the plants are hybrids of some sort. All winter Gabe, Myself, and a few others discussed what these seeds really were, what the "True Nagensium" sold at Seedman were, and where musa cheesmani might fit in. I even wrote a mail to Markku Hakkinen in Finland trying to figure it out. So far I am not getting any smarter. __________________

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Gabe15 Moderator Gabe15's Photo Gallery Location: Oahu, Hawaii Find me on the map! Zone: 12 Name: Gabe Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,892 BananaBucks : 13,377,021 Feedback: 5 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1 Times Was Thanked 8,243 Times in 2,200 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 8 Times	Re: Wanted : M . Nagensium I have seeds from Markku of a true M. nagensium variety he collected in the wild, the original form has not been seen in the wild for a long time, but this is newly discovered yellow budded variety is still a M. nagensium. I have not had any seeds germinate, but I plan to bring them with me to Hawaii to see if they would like to germinate better there. __________________ Growing bananas in Colorado, Washington, Hawaii since 2004. Commercial banana farmer, 200+ varieties.

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barna Member barna's Photo Gallery Location: Barcelona, Spain Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 9a Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 99 BananaBucks : 33,690 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 12 Times Was Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Wanted : M . Nagensium I have several hybrids of Musa nagensium 'Florale noir' sprouted and the one I planted in my garden survived outdoor in zone 9a. 2006........................................2007 I also have a "pure" nagensium from Tropengarten, that was to small to be overwintered outside. (This picture was taken last year) It really looks different from the 'Florale Noir' form. It has more slender and glaucous leaves.

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