Interested in the following rhizomes (plus suggestions!)

lloydy · 09-12-2012, 03:08 PM

Hi guys

Enjoying the community so far. Great fun reading about all your different plants and projects. I have a small project of my own which is only in its very early stages. Basically I'm looking into growing hydroponically and in the most environmentally friendly way possible, with the addition of some environmental control in an attempt to produce the fruit in southern Sweden.

Anyways, I'm currently interested in rhizomes of the following varieties and am certainly open to suggestions if you have information on others that produce unusual/tasty fruit:

Musa sikkimensis / Musa hookeri (Darjeeling Banana)
Musa velutina (Velvet Banana)
Musa "Ice Cream" / Blue Java

Let me know your terms. If it's trade you're after, I only have one variety, which is Musa "Cheeka", a variety of Dwarf Cavendish.

Cheers,

Lloyd

pmurphy · 09-12-2012, 04:30 PM

Hi,
I live in Vancouver Canada (zone 8B) and I see you are looking for the Musa velutina (velvet banana). Unfortunately I do not know of any source but was hoping that if you found one that shipped internationally you would let me know as I too would like to get a hold of a plant or two because they will survive the winters here

.
Thanks
Pam

lloydy · 09-12-2012, 05:06 PM

Sure Pam. Will see how I go here, otherwise I may resort to buying seeds - seem quite cheap and easy to get hold of. Though I hear banana seed propagation is rather difficult...

blownz281 · 09-12-2012, 07:55 PM

How would one ship to you?

Abnshrek · 09-12-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blownz281

How would one ship to you?

That's not the problem, its the shipping charge.. I bet a decent pup would run $50-60 US alone for shipping ( and that's not express, just priority) It would take a week just to get there.. that sucks but is reality.. :^)

blownz281 · 09-12-2012, 08:00 PM

Wouldn't we or him have to have a permit?

Abnshrek · 09-12-2012, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blownz281

Wouldn't we or him have to have a permit?

The bigger concern is the weather up there and where a package may have to spend the night and freeze to death, for this reason I'd look around but not get anything till may of next year. :^)

pmurphy · 09-12-2012, 09:20 PM

I have done some previous research and it is not just the international shipping costs that gets you but a certificate is required to bring them into the country and that can run upwards of $250CAN - only good thing is that the certificate will allow about 100 or so plants so if you order enough it is only costing a couple of dollars per plant....

lloydy · 09-13-2012, 02:36 AM

Thanks for the info guys. Quite an eye-opener. I'll have to hope some of the European members will sell/trade, or otherwise I'll be giving seeds a go. Wish me luck!

pmurphy · 09-13-2012, 09:35 AM

"Pink Banana, Pink-fruited Banana, Hairy Banana, Pink velvet Banana
Musa velutina"

There is a dealer located in Montreal, Canada with the website "Flora Exotica" and he lists the velutina starting at $25 CAN. I did try to order some from him a couple of months ago but the plants were not available at that time (I also dealt with him about 2 years ago when I ordered a Sapodilla and that plant arrived healthy).
He does say that he ships around the world so you might want to try him

lloydy · 09-13-2012, 11:08 AM

Thanks Pam. I found a few guys in Europe on the forum who have the plants so I'll try with them, but I've decided to try seeds if I have no luck there. All the best with yours! Keep us updated

Arachnotron · 09-13-2012, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lloydy

Sure Pam. Will see how I go here, otherwise I may resort to buying seeds - seem quite cheap and easy to get hold of. Though I hear banana seed propagation is rather difficult...

I remember reading somewhere that Velutina seeds are easier than other banana seeds to germinate. My plant was from seed off of ebay. I had 15 seeds and 12 germinated. It was a bit too cold outside and I managed to kill all but 3 when I put them out though. I would give the seeds a try.

Tristan

natej740 · 09-14-2012, 08:25 AM

I've grown velutina from seed to flower and it took 6 months to sprout then 1 year to flower.

lloydy · 09-14-2012, 09:06 AM

Hey Nate, thanks for the info. Wow, 6 months seems like an amazingly long time :O) I guess it's hard to know if it's going well at that rate. Do you have any tips? I've read that you should soak the seed for 24 hours before planting and then keep at a fairly constant and warm temperature, but that's about all.

jmoore · 09-14-2012, 11:22 AM

Lloyd that one year to flowering is in a different climate, in your climate it may take about 2 years. You'll have to bring it in the winter when it will stop growing.

sverrirb · 09-14-2012, 09:17 PM

There is a guy here on bananas wich have the thread called over 200 species he is shipping from thailand , phytosanitary certification will be included and shipping cost from20-50 dollars i have bought from him and he is really safe, i live in Iceland and it ia tough to get plants her but it all worked out and i have my pup safe and secure inside my garage with artificial lights.

lloydy · 09-14-2012, 09:44 PM

Thanks for the info J. I'm hoping to speed up the process with the use of hydroponics and some climate control. I have a feeling it's somewhat naive, but there are some advantages to this mindset :O). Wish me luck!

And cheers for the tips Sverrirb! Will look into that.

G.W. · 09-14-2012, 11:59 PM

gibberelic acid aids germination
search for GA3

jmoore · 09-15-2012, 01:32 PM

Not for banana seeds

sunfish · 09-15-2012, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.W.

gibberelic acid aids germination
search for GA3

Don't waste your money

09-12-2012, 03:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
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pmurphy always pushing the limits Location: Vancouver, BC Canada Find me on the map! Zone: 8B Name: Pam Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 337 BananaBucks : 42,579 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 168 Times Was Thanked 502 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,306 Times	Re: Interested in the following rhizomes (plus suggestions!) Hi, I live in Vancouver Canada (zone 8B) and I see you are looking for the Musa velutina (velvet banana). Unfortunately I do not know of any source but was hoping that if you found one that shipped internationally you would let me know as I too would like to get a hold of a plant or two because they will survive the winters here. Thanks Pam

09-12-2012, 05:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
lloydy Location: Malmö, Sweden Find me on the map! Zone: Zone 7 Name: Lloyd Degler Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 19 BananaBucks : 3,415 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 28 Times Was Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times	Re: Interested in the following rhizomes (plus suggestions!) Sure Pam. Will see how I go here, otherwise I may resort to buying seeds - seem quite cheap and easy to get hold of. Though I hear banana seed propagation is rather difficult... __________________ Saving the world one banana at a time http://banarnia.posterous.com/

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pmurphy always pushing the limits Location: Vancouver, BC Canada Find me on the map! Zone: 8B Name: Pam Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 337 BananaBucks : 42,579 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 168 Times Was Thanked 502 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,306 Times	Re: Interested in the following rhizomes (plus suggestions!) I have done some previous research and it is not just the international shipping costs that gets you but a certificate is required to bring them into the country and that can run upwards of $250CAN - only good thing is that the certificate will allow about 100 or so plants so if you order enough it is only costing a couple of dollars per plant....

09-13-2012, 02:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
lloydy Location: Malmö, Sweden Find me on the map! Zone: Zone 7 Name: Lloyd Degler Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 19 BananaBucks : 3,415 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 28 Times Was Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times	Re: Interested in the following rhizomes (plus suggestions!) Thanks for the info guys. Quite an eye-opener. I'll have to hope some of the European members will sell/trade, or otherwise I'll be giving seeds a go. Wish me luck! __________________ Saving the world one banana at a time http://banarnia.posterous.com/

09-13-2012, 09:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
pmurphy always pushing the limits Location: Vancouver, BC Canada Find me on the map! Zone: 8B Name: Pam Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 337 BananaBucks : 42,579 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 168 Times Was Thanked 502 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,306 Times	Re: Interested in the following rhizomes (plus suggestions!) "Pink Banana, Pink-fruited Banana, Hairy Banana, Pink velvet Banana Musa velutina" There is a dealer located in Montreal, Canada with the website "Flora Exotica" and he lists the velutina starting at $25 CAN. I did try to order some from him a couple of months ago but the plants were not available at that time (I also dealt with him about 2 years ago when I ordered a Sapodilla and that plant arrived healthy). He does say that he ships around the world so you might want to try him

09-13-2012, 11:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
lloydy Location: Malmö, Sweden Find me on the map! Zone: Zone 7 Name: Lloyd Degler Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 19 BananaBucks : 3,415 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 28 Times Was Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times	Re: Interested in the following rhizomes (plus suggestions!) Thanks Pam. I found a few guys in Europe on the forum who have the plants so I'll try with them, but I've decided to try seeds if I have no luck there. All the best with yours! Keep us updated __________________ Saving the world one banana at a time http://banarnia.posterous.com/

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lloydy Location: Malmö, Sweden Find me on the map! Zone: Zone 7 Name: Lloyd Degler Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 19 BananaBucks : 3,415 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 28 Times Was Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times	Re: Interested in the following rhizomes (plus suggestions!) Hey Nate, thanks for the info. Wow, 6 months seems like an amazingly long time :O) I guess it's hard to know if it's going well at that rate. Do you have any tips? I've read that you should soak the seed for 24 hours before planting and then keep at a fairly constant and warm temperature, but that's about all. __________________ Saving the world one banana at a time http://banarnia.posterous.com/

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lloydy Location: Malmö, Sweden Find me on the map! Zone: Zone 7 Name: Lloyd Degler Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 19 BananaBucks : 3,415 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 28 Times Was Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 4 Times	Re: Interested in the following rhizomes (plus suggestions!) Thanks for the info J. I'm hoping to speed up the process with the use of hydroponics and some climate control. I have a feeling it's somewhat naive, but there are some advantages to this mindset :O). Wish me luck! And cheers for the tips Sverrirb! Will look into that. __________________ Saving the world one banana at a time http://banarnia.posterous.com/

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