*GRAFTED* BLACK GOLD Jack fruit trees cold tolerant*pick up/ship?

bananaT · 07-30-2018, 01:23 PM

Hello.
I have grafted Black Gold jack fruit trees.
It's rare here in the US.
This is one of the most cold tolerant varieties of jack fruit, and it can be kept at a smaller size than other varieties.
I have had my trees survive the high 20's when it would kill other jack fruit.
I will try to get some pictures uploaded.

If you're interested get hold of me.
They are about 2 1/2-3 feet tall; the grafts have taken really well and they are growing nicely.
$70 each, or 2 for $120 picked up in west Polk county.

If you want them shipped..... It'll have to be $100 shipped for 1, $70 for each extra.

Botanical_Bryce · 07-30-2018, 03:23 PM

Can you email me this offer. I want to share it with a friend.

Botanical_Bryce · 07-30-2018, 03:29 PM

Actually i will be passing lakeland on friday if you would want a pile of banana plants. Good plants not garbage and i mean a pile. I would love to take one the rest of my trip as a gift for my friend.

sputinc7 · 07-30-2018, 07:41 PM

If you had said mid 20's I might be interested. We saw 26 two nights last winter here in Palm Bay... a week apart.

Richard · 07-30-2018, 08:05 PM

What a come-on.

Richard · 08-01-2018, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananaT

Hello.
I have grafted Black Gold jack fruit trees.

This cultivar grafted on seedling can be controlled to the relatively small height of 40' tall and 18" diameter base in ten years. Over a ten year period it is a good (not excellent) performer in zone 10b, struggles in zone 9b, and dead in zone 9a.

Keep in mind that zones are determined by 10 year averages.

sputinc7 · 08-01-2018, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

This cultivar grafted on seedling can be controlled to the relatively small height of 40' tall and 18" diameter base in ten years. Over a ten year period it is a good (not excellent) performer in zone 10b, struggles in zone 9b, and dead in zone 9a.

Keep in mind that zones are determined by 10 year averages.

So, you are verifying that what he said is accurate, at least to some extent as regularly, jackfruit are strictly 10 b (above 32) trees that get to 100 feet.

Botanical_Bryce · 08-01-2018, 10:40 AM

This is a quote from the Miami Herald
Black Gold
was selected in Queensland, Australia. This tree grows vigorously, with a dense and highly manageable canopy. With annual pruning the tree can be maintained at a height and spread of six to eight feet, with consistent, heavy production of 120 to 200 pounds per tree. The fruit are medium-sized, averaging 14 pounds. The exterior of the fruit is dark green and has sharp, fleshy spines. The spines do not flatten, or “open” upon maturity, making it difficult to judge the proper harvest time and maturity. However the deep orange flesh is soft, with a strong, sweet flavor and aroma. The flesh is easier to remove from the fruit than it is with other cultivars.

luisport · 08-01-2018, 11:09 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mGnZOM5PRY

bananaT · 08-02-2018, 08:44 PM

So... Any questions?
Seems to be a wannabe smarty pants a'postin.......
Just so its known; I actually grow these trees. And what I say about them, and everything I talk about in general, is from first hand experience. I do the work, and get My, info. Its not regurgitated.
If I don't know about.......... I don't add my cents. Or post random information off the net.

So, yes. These are definitely dwarf trees. Even on seedling roots they are nowhere as vigorous as standard varieties.
And the fact is that any tree can be kept at any height with pruning. These are no exception. Trimming lateral points will get them to grow out and they end up looking really nice.

You could even stick these guys in xlarge pots and they do well.
I've seen some in a video on youtube. Its pretty interesting.
They put down a very strong tap root normally, but if its broken, or they're rooted cuttings, they take to potting up well.

As for their cold tolerance; They are very cold tolerant for the species. They do well right down to 32. And young shoot damage starts around 29, branch damage around 26-28.
Simple steps, or even planting in micro climates, for cold protection would easily cut damage to pretty much nothing on these. And just like bananas, later in the growing season you would not be able to even tell they got nipped by the cold.

Botanical_Bryce · 08-02-2018, 10:26 PM

I love the quality of what i got from you and i cant wait for my friend to get it. I do find it low class when people invade postings. Keep in mind that the invader throughout other forums is known as a trouble maker.

Richard · 08-03-2018, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananaT

So... Any questions?

Yes. I've seen them here in San Diego county: dead after a winter in true 9a, limping along in 9b, and several after 10-12 years in the ground in true zone 10.

Do you have pictures of your trees at your location in the ground for years and producing fruit -- or just pictures of saplings in pots you are trying to sell?

Dangermouse01 · 08-03-2018, 09:03 AM

You are going to want to keep it trimmed to a manageable height anyways. Who wants to climb up a 25+ foot tree to then climb down with a 20-30Lb fruit.
The Dr Richard Campbell/Noris Ledesma book about Jackfriut lists Black Gold as high vigor.
It's status as "rare" might just be because it has fallen out a favor of the buying public. With the internet, people are hearing/learning more about the latest offerings from Fairchild or Excalibur (Zills for mangoes) and less about the old school types. For 20+ years the same large nursery from South Florida has been bringing all the tropical fruit trees for our club"s tree sale. Over the years the jackfruit selections have gone from Black Gold, NS-1, Tabouey, J-31 and Gold Nugget to newer varieties all from Fairchild (Small, Hardy, Cantaloupe, Orange Crush, First and others).
Last year the local Home Depot here had Black Gold jackfruit trees for sale.

I don't grow Black Gold, but I do have Cristela, Hardy, Small, Mai 1, NS-1, Bangkok Lemon, Leung Bang, Borneo Red, a Gold Nugget Hybrid and a unknown one (given to me by a neighbor who got it from another neighbor).

sputinc7 · 08-03-2018, 05:18 PM

You grow jackfruit here in Palm Bay? I didn't think it would work out here... How did last winter hit them?

Richard · 08-05-2018, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangermouse01

You are going to want to keep it trimmed to a manageable height anyways. Who wants to climb up a 25+ foot tree ...

A 25 foot Jackfruit tree with 25 lb fruits is pruned. It would be 60 feet otherwise. Further, the largest fruits produced on the tree are near the base, and often on the knees of the root system -- not near the top. Can we please have some sanity in this discussion?

Botanical_Bryce · 08-05-2018, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sputinc7

You grow jackfruit here in Palm Bay? I didn't think it would work out here... How did last winter hit them?

Just saw some in your area friday. Gorgeous ones.

07-30-2018, 01:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
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sputinc7 Location: Palm Bay, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Steve Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,394 BananaBucks : 101,646 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 352 Times Was Thanked 2,430 Times in 971 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 295 Times	*Re: GRAFTED* BLACK GOLD Jack fruit trees cold tolerantpick up/ship?* If you had said mid 20's I might be interested. We saw 26 two nights last winter here in Palm Bay... a week apart. __________________ If you lose your head and give up, you neither live nor win. https://sputinc7.wixsite.com/covwc Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel. What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

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Botanical_Bryce Location: Inverness, Florida Zone: 9a Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 881 BananaBucks : 76,446 Feedback: 4 / 100% Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 1,459 Times in 636 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	*Re: GRAFTED* BLACK GOLD Jack fruit trees cold tolerantpick up/ship?* This is a quote from the Miami Herald Black Gold was selected in Queensland, Australia. This tree grows vigorously, with a dense and highly manageable canopy. With annual pruning the tree can be maintained at a height and spread of six to eight feet, with consistent, heavy production of 120 to 200 pounds per tree. The fruit are medium-sized, averaging 14 pounds. The exterior of the fruit is dark green and has sharp, fleshy spines. The spines do not flatten, or “open” upon maturity, making it difficult to judge the proper harvest time and maturity. However the deep orange flesh is soft, with a strong, sweet flavor and aroma. The flesh is easier to remove from the fruit than it is with other cultivars.

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bananaT Fi sti elbide, worg ti! Location: In a lake. In C. Florida. Find me on the map! Zone: 9 to 10 Name: T Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 275 BananaBucks : 52,107 Feedback: 2 / 100% Said "Thanks" 129 Times Was Thanked 479 Times in 161 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 16 Times	*Re: GRAFTED* BLACK GOLD Jack fruit trees cold tolerantpick up/ship?* So... Any questions? Seems to be a wannabe smarty pants a'postin....... Just so its known; I actually grow these trees. And what I say about them, and everything I talk about in general, is from first hand experience. I do the work, and get My, info. Its not regurgitated. If I don't know about.......... I don't add my cents. Or post random information off the net. So, yes. These are definitely dwarf trees. Even on seedling roots they are nowhere as vigorous as standard varieties. And the fact is that any tree can be kept at any height with pruning. These are no exception. Trimming lateral points will get them to grow out and they end up looking really nice. You could even stick these guys in xlarge pots and they do well. I've seen some in a video on youtube. Its pretty interesting. They put down a very strong tap root normally, but if its broken, or they're rooted cuttings, they take to potting up well. As for their cold tolerance; They are very cold tolerant for the species. They do well right down to 32. And young shoot damage starts around 29, branch damage around 26-28. Simple steps, or even planting in micro climates, for cold protection would easily cut damage to pretty much nothing on these. And just like bananas, later in the growing season you would not be able to even tell they got nipped by the cold. __________________ Come visit my corner spot; read some interesting post, buy rare edible plants & animals and maybe learn something! SUBCRIBE!! https://youtu.be/sPa7tzsIbhM T.Farms

08-02-2018, 10:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
Botanical_Bryce Location: Inverness, Florida Zone: 9a Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 881 BananaBucks : 76,446 Feedback: 4 / 100% Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 1,459 Times in 636 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	*Re: GRAFTED* BLACK GOLD Jack fruit trees cold tolerantpick up/ship?* I love the quality of what i got from you and i cant wait for my friend to get it. I do find it low class when people invade postings. Keep in mind that the invader throughout other forums is known as a trouble maker.

08-03-2018, 09:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
Dangermouse01 Location: Palm Bay (NE), Florida Find me on the map! Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 285 BananaBucks : 51,633 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 60 Times Was Thanked 875 Times in 233 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 5 Times	*Re: GRAFTED* BLACK GOLD Jack fruit trees cold tolerantpick up/ship?* You are going to want to keep it trimmed to a manageable height anyways. Who wants to climb up a 25+ foot tree to then climb down with a 20-30Lb fruit. The Dr Richard Campbell/Noris Ledesma book about Jackfriut lists Black Gold as high vigor. It's status as "rare" might just be because it has fallen out a favor of the buying public. With the internet, people are hearing/learning more about the latest offerings from Fairchild or Excalibur (Zills for mangoes) and less about the old school types. For 20+ years the same large nursery from South Florida has been bringing all the tropical fruit trees for our club"s tree sale. Over the years the jackfruit selections have gone from Black Gold, NS-1, Tabouey, J-31 and Gold Nugget to newer varieties all from Fairchild (Small, Hardy, Cantaloupe, Orange Crush, First and others). Last year the local Home Depot here had Black Gold jackfruit trees for sale. I don't grow Black Gold, but I do have Cristela, Hardy, Small, Mai 1, NS-1, Bangkok Lemon, Leung Bang, Borneo Red, a Gold Nugget Hybrid and a unknown one (given to me by a neighbor who got it from another neighbor).

08-03-2018, 05:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
sputinc7 Location: Palm Bay, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Steve Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,394 BananaBucks : 101,646 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 352 Times Was Thanked 2,430 Times in 971 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 295 Times	*Re: GRAFTED* BLACK GOLD Jack fruit trees cold tolerantpick up/ship?* You grow jackfruit here in Palm Bay? I didn't think it would work out here... How did last winter hit them? __________________ If you lose your head and give up, you neither live nor win. https://sputinc7.wixsite.com/covwc Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel. What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

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