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Old 09-26-2010, 09:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ERG I really wish I did not grow bananas here, To much to worry about.
Spring time i'm checking the weather daily to see when they can go out.
Now it's the same thing.

I am thinking sometime around mid October here. St. Louis zone 6.
Last year I had two plants to worry about now I have a plethora.

Do you all dig up all your plants at once or based upon their hardiness?
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Old 09-26-2010, 10:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: When you digging up?

I dig up all my plants based upon there cold tolerance. Plumerias may drop there flowers with prolonged temps in the 40s at night especially when they are in the ground, so Im going to dig up my plumerias in mid october. All my other plants in the ground are going to be dug up in early november right before the first frost. Then some of my cannas will be dug up (not all of them since Im testing them on there cold tolerance) right after the first killer frost which last year didnt occur until early december here! So most of my plants still have a while in the ground. I dont have any banana plants in the ground this year, but next year almost all of my banana plants will be in the ground, so those will be lots of fun to dig up in the fall!!!
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Old 09-27-2010, 06:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Pretty much on hardiness. I brought in 2 potted bananas last night, a Saba and a Thai Black. Those were because they were in smaller pots. I also want to start bringing stuff in so I don't have do it it all at once, which is a real pain. But other plants depend. I usually don't get a good freeze until late Oct, last year it was late November! I covered up my basjoo Thanksgiving weekend last year, usually it's Halloween weekend. So it really depends. My non hardy elephant ears will get pulled in the next 2 weeks regardless. My biggest problem is with working full time I need to plan ahead, so if it looks like it will be getting very cold in a week or so I pull them based on how much time I have so I'm not out there at midnight in total darkness trying to put things away! So yeah no easy answer just like in spring.
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yep, same here. We got the large ice cream into the greenhouse because we get extremely high winds here in the fall. Sure enough, the day we put it in we thought it was windy, 40 mph winds, but the next day they were 50 mph gusts.
I've been slowly getting things into the greenhouse a little early this year because of 40ish degree night temps--and because we haven't had any rain to speak of in 6 wks. It's easier to water in the greenhouse.
I'll be digging my large alocasia in the next few days just so I can get it done and out of the way. Then all the bananas around the pond go in when I hear there's a frost forecast. Usually the 7-10th of October, which is coming up fast. I can dig them up real quick--they pop right out, then when my hubby gets home from work, we can get them carried and put away in about an hour or less, working as a team.
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Concur with what everyones been saying. I go by the weather forecast but mid to late October is a good general rule here in zone 6 NJ. I have so many that I'll start with a few early and take more in as the fall progresses and if need be will be ready to take action if there's an early frost projected either by protecting the plants with a row cover or digging them.
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I purchased some grow lights and slowly have brought some small nanas that are in pots indoors. As time permits, I'll start digging up the rest.

The Ensette Maurellis are going to be a pain.
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I had a DC with 2 small pups that I planted in the garden early this spring. The mother plant in the center died, but the 2 pups are now around 6 feet tall each. I'm not sure I can get a pot big enough for the two together, so I may have to split them. Is this just like for a pup off the main p-stem, just cut down the middle, etc.? I'll probably dig them up first so I can inspect the corm.

Here they are in an earlier pic.
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I had a DC with 2 small pups that I planted in the garden early this spring. The mother plant in the center died, but the 2 pups are now around 6 feet tall each. I'm not sure I can get a pot big enough for the two together, so I may have to split them. Is this just like for a pup off the main p-stem, just cut down the middle, etc.? I'll probably dig them up first so I can inspect the corm.

Here they are in an earlier pic.
As big as that corm is going to be you should be okay to split them and plant them sperate. i had one that done this last year.
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Old 10-01-2010, 10:48 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I am getting nervous
Here is my 10 day.
I am going to be risking it.
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3 nights in the mid-high 30's

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since the plants are cut down to the corm they are not exposed to the ambient temperature and since they do not have a large root structures I would imagine it shouldn't be that intensive to construct something for permanent protection,
like heating coils they use to de-ice driveways or hot water pipe system.

anyone ever try to implement anything like this with success?
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here ya go mango_kush
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I hate this time of year. do you let yours dry a little before you bring them in.
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I hate this time of year. do you let yours dry a little before you bring them in.
We've been digging ours up as it's been getting colder at night earlier this year and we don't want to have to do it all at once either. These are going to go into the dark and we've let them dry out before putting them to bed in the workshop and we'll cover them with a swimming pool solar blanket and a black tarp. Pups are potted and in the house as back ups.
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seems like it would work good using two 25 gallon pots
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We've been having some colder weather, with nights down to mid 40's F. So far, no signs of any negative effects on my tropicals. As a matter of fact, it seems to have stimulated some to bloom. Three of my tropical hibiscus are now blooming, as well as my pink and my red mandeviilas, lantanas, plumerias, etc. Even my bananas look better. I've found that the coloration of the fish in the pond gets much more intense in the colder weather. I'm really procrastinating here, as my back and knees have really been bothering me, and the winter digs will not be pleasant. Plus, I don't want them out of my garden yet, they look so good!!
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