When is it to late for Gran nain?

blownz281 · 09-09-2012, 12:56 PM

I want to wait till fall or so when my nanners aren't growing much before I trade/sell any pups. Don't want to hurt the mother plants.

I would like to trade someone one of my pups off one of my plants for a Gran Nain. I have a greenhouse for it so I could plant it out next year.

Abnshrek · 09-09-2012, 02:03 PM

Its only to late if it flowers or the pup doesn't have enough time to recover in decent weather I'd say. If separated properly it will have no or almost no effect on the mother plant. :^)

blownz281 · 09-09-2012, 02:23 PM

Cool,was just curious since we all live in different places with summer ending. Thanks

kaczercat · 09-09-2012, 03:36 PM

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venturabananas · 09-09-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blownz281

I want to wait till fall or so when my nanners aren't growing much before I trade/sell any pups. Don't want to hurt the mother plants.

I think you are thinking about it backwards. You should separate when they are actively growing so they have time to recover before growth seriously slows or ceases, at which time they are much more prone to rot and other problems. You might want to wait until spring. Doing it during winter is probably asking for trouble -- at least for the separated pups.

sunfish · 09-09-2012, 04:24 PM

blownz281 · 09-09-2012, 05:10 PM

Guess that's true! Its not winter here so I'm good for a few months.

venturabananas · 09-09-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blownz281

Guess that's true! Its not winter here so I'm good for a few months.

Yes, but be careful -- i.e., don't make the same mistakes I did! Bananas practically stop growing when temperatures are consistently in the 50's or lower. Just because there is no frost doesn't mean they'll be growing. Pups that had been separated and planted in my yard in late September rotted to the corm more often than not. I think if you live in a temperate area, you want at least a couple of months of optimal growing conditions for separated pups to really establish their root system before cooler weather hits.

blownz281 · 09-09-2012, 05:36 PM

Decided against GN looks to much like CD. I was not going to plant any out,potting them up for the greenhouse. Just in case we had some horrible winter and lost all the parent plants,I would have extra plants

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blownz281 · 09-09-2012, 07:43 PM

We stay in the upper 70's at night for the next month or two usually.

bananimal · 09-09-2012, 11:47 PM

When I lived in Charlotte, NC I would dig out the biggest pups at end of Sept and grow them out potted in the house. Stuck them in the gnd at last chance of frost date. Best chance for fruit the following year. Anything else, short of a greenhouse, was a waste of time.

Wilmington is coastal so your planting season is a bit longer.

cincinnana · 09-10-2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas

be careful -- i.e., don't make the same mistakes I did! Bananas practically stop growing when temperatures are consistently in the 50's or lower. I think if you live in a temperate area, you want at least a couple of months of optimal growing conditions for separated pups to really establish their root system before cooler weather hits.

I absolutely agree ...I have been down that road before.
I stop potting pups in late August.
However I will separate the pup from the mother.
I do not remove the pup from the pot
I do not disturb any roots on the pup side ..I cut just enough to separate the mother and pup.
I sprinkle a little rooting hormone on the pup and main stem.
This method for me seems less stressful for the pup because not many roots are disturbed and it is already potted and split.
Then in the spring the pup is ready.
This is how I do it

blownz281 · 09-11-2012, 08:51 PM

A guy that owns a greenhouse that's been around for years,bought another store for sale. He just planted several 7ft nanners 2 days ago. Its recomended to transplant or plant a lot of plants here this time of year. The heat index is lower and night temps are in the 80's low 70's.

Abnshrek · 09-11-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blownz281

A guy that owns a greenhouse that's been around for years,bought another store for sale. He just planted several 7ft nanners 2 days ago. Its recomended to transplant or plant a lot of plants here this time of year. The heat index is lower and night temps are in the 80's low 70's.

For most plants that's true, but your temp is 68F what's it really getting down to tonight? Not optimal conditions for planting banana's that's for sure. I have you by 10 degrees and have to pots trying to give me hell. I'd stick to anything in the Orinoco family and you should have no problems. :^)

blownz281 · 09-11-2012, 09:11 PM

I don't want a Gran Nain anymore

. We are having a cold front right now. that's the coldest it has been and that's the low for tonight. Next week back to normal. All my plants in my profile are still pushing leaves out like crazy

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Abnshrek · 09-11-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blownz281

I don't want a Gran Nain anymore

. We are having a cold front right now. that's the coldest it has been and that's the low for tonight. Next week back to normal. All my plants in my profile are still pushing leaves out like crazy

.

In general this isn't the greatest time to plant banana's unless you live in zone 9 or higher.. even if its recommended by a plant rocket scientist in your area.. That was my only point.. :^)

blownz281 · 09-11-2012, 09:25 PM

The main point of this post was, I was curious if anyone would have a pup this late in the year. Since most would be pretty big and not small. But once you and me talked and I looked at more pics,it looked to much like my DC. Like we said its in the same family,but was hoping it looked a little different.

venturabananas · 09-11-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek

In general this isn't the greatest time to plant banana's unless you live in zone 9 or higher.. even if its recommended by a plant rocket scientist in your area.. That was my only point.. :^)

Even in zone 9 or higher, autumn is not a great time to plant bananas, unless you are in the tropics or near-tropics.

venturabananas · 09-11-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek

For most plants that's true, but your temp is 68F what's it really getting down to tonight? Not optimal conditions for planting banana's that's for sure.

Ooh, that hurts!

We have very few nighttime lows as high as 68F all year long where I live, next to the cool eastern Pacific Ocean. Even in summer, low 60's to high 50's is the norm for nighttime lows. On the plus side, I don't have to dig up or protect my banana plants in the winter!

Abnshrek · 09-11-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas

Even in zone 9 or higher, autumn is not a great time to plant bananas, unless you are in the tropics or near-tropics.

I was trying to give the weather there (zone 9 and higher) the benefit of doubt.. :^)

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