What's going to be next years Siam Ruby

tophersmith · 08-05-2008, 12:36 PM

Ok so I figured I would check with the experts here to see what you guys think will be next years hottest banana. Ouside of CA. Gold and AEAE which are always the most desired.

Lagniappe · 08-05-2008, 12:41 PM

It seems Viente Cohol is becoming highly sought after .

Bananaman88 · 08-05-2008, 12:46 PM

The Dwarf, cold-hardy, prodigiously pupping, quick-to-fruit- Ae-Ae, brought to us by the advances in Musa biotechnology!

Wouldn't that be nice?!! Actually, smart as Gabe is, he may acomplish this some day! I call dibs on the first one!

harveyc · 08-05-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bananaman88

The Dwarf, cold-hardy, prodigiously pupping, quick-to-fruit- Ae-Ae, brought to us by the advances in Musa biotechnology!

Wouldn't that be nice?!! Actually, smart as Gabe is, he may acomplish this some day! I call dibs on the first one!

Brent, Gabe already wrote recently that his "boss" (not sure if that's the correct term) at school said that they thought they knew how to TC Ae Ae and that he (Gabe) wanted to try it, but that he needed to get a pup. I suggest you buy one and send it to him to earn your top spot on the list!

Don't know about that cold hardy part, though! On the other hand, GATroops has over-wintered his in zone 9 and I'm willing to give it a try here also.

Bananaman88 · 08-05-2008, 01:18 PM

My post was purely in jest. However, if I do ever get enough pups to share around I wouldn't mind giving one to Gabe to give it a go.

Gabe15 · 08-05-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by harveyc

Brent, Gabe already wrote recently that his "boss" (not sure if that's the correct term) at school said that they thought they knew how to TC Ae Ae and that he (Gabe) wanted to try it, but that he needed to get a pup. I suggest you buy one and send it to him to earn your top spot on the list!

This is true...all we need is some material to test on, about 3 pups to be safe. I will hopefully be getting some eventually, at least one maybe by next summer. However, seeing as that you can't send banana plants to Hawai'i (without going thru tons of paper work, time, and money), I will need to find a source on O'ahu for the meantime, there is a way to do inter-island banana plant transport, but I haven't figured it out yet. I know of only one plant on O'ahu (which about 2ft tall and struggling), but I'm sure there are more somewhere, if I can find them and get a few, then we will be able to do the tests sooner.

As for hot new banana plants, I have a few things members here might be interested in, but who knows what will be popular with the greater horticulture community.

tophersmith · 08-05-2008, 02:42 PM

Hey Gabe,

As for hot new banana plants, I have a few things members here might be interested in, but who knows what will be popular with the greater horticulture community.

What ones would you be refering to?

Gabe15 · 08-05-2008, 03:24 PM

M. peekelii (30-40ft tall), a few different Fe'i bananas (one with fruit the size and shape of a grapefruit), a new variety of M. beccarii with more red, maybe some different variegated ones (Pisang Mas, a very small ornamental mannii hybrid, balbisiana x velutina), a new color variety of E. ventricosum, true M. textilis, a plant that looks exactly like zebrina but has fully edible fruit (doesn't appear to be the 'sumatrana X Gran Nain' either)...and there's always room for more, so we shall see.

Bananaman88 · 08-05-2008, 03:26 PM

Gabe,

Don't any of the botanical gardens there grow Ae-Ae? I only went to one or two when I was there and I didn't see any but I figured at least one of them had some. Of course, getting them to turn loose of one may be the trick. My first pup is supposed to go back to the person who gave it to me (if he needs it). I'd like to get a spare, but I really would be willing to donate one to you if you can figure out a way to get it to Hawaii. I'm sure this will be a while as it only has one very small pup at the moment.

Bananaman88 · 08-05-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabe15

M. peekelii (30-40ft tall), a few different Fe'i bananas (one with fruit the size and shape of a grapefruit), a new variety of M. beccarii with more red, maybe some different variegated ones (Pisang Mas, a very small ornamental mannii hybrid, balbisiana x velutina), a new color variety of E. ventricosum, true M. textilis, a plant that looks exactly like zebrina but has fully edible fruit (doesn't appear to be the 'sumatrana X Gran Nain' either)...and there's always room for more, so we shall see.

Sounds promising!

Gabe15 · 08-05-2008, 03:29 PM

I haven't been to all of the botanic gardens on the island, and very few nurseries, so there is plenty hope yet.

Gabe15 · 08-05-2008, 09:47 PM

I was just looking at the rules, and it looks like I'm allowed to bring banana plants to O'ahu since there is already BBTV there, so there is no risk of introducing it (I just can't bring pups from O'ahu to other islands without inspection, but I wont need to be doing that anytime soon). So, if I can find some Aeae on Big Island, it looks like I'll be able to take them back to O'ahu with me and I can grow them and try TC stuff with them.

gadget · 08-05-2008, 10:40 PM

did not know what bbtv was, so I did a quick search and found this great vid.

Banana Bunchy Top Disease in Hawaii: Symptoms, Diagnosis and Management

damaclese · 08-06-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabe15

M. peekelii (30-40ft tall), a few different Fe'i bananas (one with fruit the size and shape of a grapefruit), a new variety of M. beccarii with more red, maybe some different variegated ones (Pisang Mas, a very small ornamental mannii hybrid, balbisiana x velutina), a new color variety of E. ventricosum, true M. textilis, a plant that looks exactly like zebrina but has fully edible fruit (doesn't appear to be the 'sumatrana X Gran Nain' either)...and there's always room for more, so we shall see.

Gabe can you tell me more about the Ventricosum are there and articals and or pics i could look at it you know i have a high leval of intrest in them sisns i have so meny of them and they are truely stuning folig plants conpaird to most Bananas

Tropicallvr · 08-06-2008, 12:26 PM

Looking forward to that M.peekelii myself, and that variegated balbisiana X veluntia hybrid.
If you're going to TC a varigated banana, why not go the whole 9 yards and get a Musa basjoo varigated into tissue culture! Now that one would fly off the shelfs, but it would be even tougher to get ahold of.

Bananaman88 · 08-06-2008, 12:37 PM

I'm still interested in the Fe'i, personally. That one sounds cool! I had a beccarii but let it get too dry over the winter and lost it.

nucci60 · 08-06-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tropicallvr

Looking forward to that M.peekelii myself, and that variegated balbisiana X veluntia hybrid.
If you're going to TC a varigated banana, why not go the whole 9 yards and get a Musa basjoo varigated into tissue culture! Now that one would fly off the shelfs, but it would be even tougher to get ahold of.

Wouldn't that be sweet!

mskitty38583 · 08-06-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tropicallvr

Looking forward to that M.peekelii myself, and that variegated balbisiana X veluntia hybrid.
If you're going to TC a varigated banana, why not go the whole 9 yards and get a Musa basjoo varigated into tissue culture! Now that one would fly off the shelfs, but it would be even tougher to get ahold of.

a cold hardy varigated nana....put me on the waiting list! i can see the name now....ae ae- basjoo!

MediaHound · 08-06-2008, 10:11 PM

Put me down for some of those exotic Fe'i, Gabe, please!

Variegated Ice Cream may one day be a hit... its out there..

Also looking forward to the glow in the dark banana plant.

08-05-2008, 12:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
tophersmith 2nd Yr Subtropical Addict tophersmith's Photo Gallery Location: Cary, NC. Find me on the map! Zone: 7b Name: Chris Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 561 BananaBucks : 3,006 Feedback: 7 / 100% Thanks: 22 Thanked 125 Times in 54 Posts Welcomes: 0	What's going to be next years Siam Ruby Ok so I figured I would check with the experts here to see what you guys think will be next years hottest banana. Ouside of CA. Gold and AEAE which are always the most desired.

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Bananaman88 Bananaculturist Bananaman88's Photo Gallery Location: Pearland, TX Find me on the map! Zone: 9 Name: Brent Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,096 BananaBucks : 8,553 Feedback: 15 / 100% Thanks: 112 Thanked 303 Times in 208 Posts Welcomes: 8	Re: What's going to be next years Siam Ruby My post was purely in jest. However, if I do ever get enough pups to share around I wouldn't mind giving one to Gabe to give it a go.

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Bananaman88 Bananaculturist Bananaman88's Photo Gallery Location: Pearland, TX Find me on the map! Zone: 9 Name: Brent Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,096 BananaBucks : 8,553 Feedback: 15 / 100% Thanks: 112 Thanked 303 Times in 208 Posts Welcomes: 8	Re: What's going to be next years Siam Ruby Gabe, Don't any of the botanical gardens there grow Ae-Ae? I only went to one or two when I was there and I didn't see any but I figured at least one of them had some. Of course, getting them to turn loose of one may be the trick. My first pup is supposed to go back to the person who gave it to me (if he needs it). I'd like to get a spare, but I really would be willing to donate one to you if you can figure out a way to get it to Hawaii. I'm sure this will be a while as it only has one very small pup at the moment.

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Gabe15 MC Banana Commander Gabe15's Photo Gallery Location: Honolulu, HI Find me on the map! Zone: 11 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,537 BananaBucks : 16,510 Feedback: 4 / 100% Thanks: 1 Thanked 772 Times in 322 Posts Welcomes: 1	Re: What's going to be next years Siam Ruby I haven't been to all of the botanic gardens on the island, and very few nurseries, so there is plenty hope yet. __________________ The only hemp Im growing is Manila.

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Gabe15 MC Banana Commander Gabe15's Photo Gallery Location: Honolulu, HI Find me on the map! Zone: 11 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,537 BananaBucks : 16,510 Feedback: 4 / 100% Thanks: 1 Thanked 772 Times in 322 Posts Welcomes: 1	Re: What's going to be next years Siam Ruby I was just looking at the rules, and it looks like I'm allowed to bring banana plants to O'ahu since there is already BBTV there, so there is no risk of introducing it (I just can't bring pups from O'ahu to other islands without inspection, but I wont need to be doing that anytime soon). So, if I can find some Aeae on Big Island, it looks like I'll be able to take them back to O'ahu with me and I can grow them and try TC stuff with them. __________________ The only hemp Im growing is Manila.

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gadget gadget's Photo Gallery Location: tempe, AZ Find me on the map! Zone: 9 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 95 BananaBucks : 791 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 24 Thanked 49 Times in 19 Posts Welcomes: 16	Re: What's going to be next years Siam Ruby did not know what bbtv was, so I did a quick search and found this great vid. Banana Bunchy Top Disease in Hawaii: Symptoms, Diagnosis and Management __________________

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