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Old 06-07-2021, 07:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Manini a'ea'e are one of the easiest cultivars to pollinate and get seeds.

Blue Java is another cultivar that is very easy.

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I recommend growers on the mainland that are interested in breeding bananas use the Manini A'ea'e as the female parent because it's very fertile, and it's a short cycle which means it's fruiting cycle is short. It takes about 2 months between pollinating and planting the seeds that are produced. Plus another bonus is that variegation is often passed on from the mother plant.

This lightly variegated Manini A'ea'e will be made available for free to a member that's interesting in getting involved with breeding bananas. I'll start a thread in the banana plants for sale forum for anyone that's interested.


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Default Re: What did you pollinate today?

I've never tried pollinating bananas. How often are you getting seeds with the pollinated Manini A'ea'e? Is it in nearly every fruit?

I was under the impression that seeds are very rare, though I imagine that's heavily dependent on varieties used as the parent plants.
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I recommend growers on the mainland that are interested in breeding bananas use the Manini A'ea'e as the female parent because it's very fertile, and it's a short cycle which means it's fruiting cycle is short. It takes about 2 months between pollinating and planting the seeds that are produced. Plus another bonus is that variegation is often passed on from the mother plant.

This lightly variegated Manini A'ea'e will be made available for free to a member that's interesting in getting involved with breeding bananas. I'll start a thread in the banana plants for sale forum for anyone that's interested.




I'd be interested in that manini pup. I've been learning so much the past few years and would like to play with pollinating some also. I've been averaging 8-10 flowers at a time for the past year now and that will only be increasing with the new planting of more varieties about to take off with the rainy season coming.
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How often are you getting seeds with the pollinated Manini A'ea'e? Is it in nearly every fruit?
With the Manini and Blue Java we get seeds 100% of the time with hand pollinating and nearly 100% of the time without hand pollinating if there are compatible fertile male flowers nearby.
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It's important to understand sexual reproduction.

https://letstalkscience.ca/education...t-reproduction

Edible banana cultivars that are pollinated can produce seeds.

Edible banana cultivars that are not pollinated don't produce seeds.

Think of a supermarket banana like a supermarket egg.

If a supermarket egg is fertilized it can produce a chick.

If a supermarket egg is not fertilized it doesn't produce a chick.

Here's some photos of three common edible banana cultivars that will easily produce seeds if there's a compatible pollen source within a quarter mile.

ABB Blue Java







AAB Manini A'ea'e







AA Veinte Cohol










The two most common edible banana cultivar seeds I see for sale on the internet are Blue Java and Manini A'ea'e seeds. But you should be cautious because even though those seeds are very easy to produce there's no way to be sure the seeds actually originated from those fruit. And even if they did, it's important to realize they will not produce Blue Java or Manini A'ea'e seedlings. Each seed, if it germinates will produce a new variety and you won't know if these new varieties are seedless or seeded until after they bear fruit.
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Here's a photo of a couple of the hybrid Blue Java seedlings from the seeds in the previous photos.

This is really easy and once you get involved with breeding bananas you'll probably have thousands of new varieties. I stopped naming and counting them a long time ago.






I always recommend starting with the easy and highly fertile crosses first and later try the ones that are more difficult.

Just because someone says something is difficult doesn't necessarily mean it's difficult. I've been sharing a lot of my variegated banana seeds and they are super easy too germinate but there's always going to be people that will think it's difficult. I always tell people to throw them on the ground somewhere and remember where you threw them. A few days ago I received a photo from an org member that threw the seeds outside before winter and they just sprouted now. It's really cool to grow variegated bananas from seed.
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Seedling from a Blue Java cross.

Blue Java was the female parent.

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Growing variegated bananas from seed and sharing those seeds is what I really enjoy.

There are many members on this forum that are also growing variegated bananas from seed.

Here's a plant that will get hand pollinated soon.



I recently sent this beautiful offshoot to a collector friend. The mother plant that produced it was grown from seed.

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That’s awesome!
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Here's a video from a person that purchased some variegated seeds from us on eBay. It's an interesting video but I only watched it up to where he said the seeds were from a Florida Manini cross. I pollinated the flowers and neither the Florida or Manini were used in the cross. I remember that they inquired about the parentage a few times and my reply was that it was proprietary.

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Growing variegated bananas from seed and sharing those seeds is what I really enjoy.

There are many members on this forum that are also growing variegated bananas from seed.

Here's a plant that will get hand pollinated soon.



I recently sent this beautiful offshoot to a collector friend. The mother plant that produced it was grown from seed.

Wow that is a beautiful plant!!
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Wow that is a beautiful plant!!
Yeah, it's one of my favorites.

You should be able to find that banana locally soon, I know a few people in Vancouver that received seeds.
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Really!?! That would be cool!
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Here's a video from a person that purchased some variegated seeds from us on eBay. It's an interesting video but I only watched it up to where he said the seeds were from a Florida Manini cross. I pollinated the flowers and neither the Florida or Manini were used in the cross. I remember that they inquired about the parentage a few times and my reply was that it was proprietary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUc6f8sADn0

Thanks for all the info. It's super interesting!

Could I ask why the parentage needs to remain proprietary? Even if someone knew the exact parent plants used in the cross there would be a zero percent chance they could recreate what you're selling. If you manage to create a great synthetic hybrid banana the only way to share it would still be with suckers and/or tissue culturing.
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