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Old 08-23-2009, 03:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just took these pics this afternoon...


Front flower beds #1




Front flower beds #2




Trachycarpus fortunei a.k.a. Windmill Palm




Lagerstroemia indica a.k.a. Crepe Myrtle (White)




Front flower beds #3 (work still in progress)




Phoenix roebelenii a.k.a Pygmy Date Palm




Beta vulgaris cicla a.k.a Bright Lights




Codiaeum variegatum a.k.a. Croton




Musa acuminata cultivar Dwarf a.k.a. Super Dwarf Cavendish Banana




Rutaceae Fotunella crassifolia a.k.a. Meiwa Kumquat




Tropical grass (please identify!)




Citrus reticulata subspiecies unshiu Owari a.k.a. Owari Satsuma




Musa cultivar Little Prince a.k.a. Little Prince Banana




Ensete ventricosum cultivar Maurelii a.k.a. False Banana, Red Abyssinian Banana




Musa cultivar Lady Finger a.k.a. Lady Finger Banana




Musa acuminata cultivar Dwarf Cavendish a.k.a. Dwarf Cavendish Banana




Musa acuminata cultivar Ice Cream a.k.a. Ice Cream Banana, Blue Java Banana




X Butiagrus nabonnandii a.k.a. Mule Palm




Musa saba a.k.a Saba Banana (was about six inches tall four and a half months ago)




Musa acuminata cultivar Zebrina a.k.a. Blood Bananas




Bloom and flag leaf on Musa acuminata cultivar Zebrina a.k.a. Blood Banana




Washingtonia robusta a.k.a. Mexican Fan Palm




Roystonea regia a.k.a. Florida Royal Palm (my favorite)




Phoenix dactylifera a.k.a. True Date Palm, Medjool Date Palm




Phoenix canariensis a.k.a. Canary Island Date Palm




Inflorescence on Phoenix canariensis a.k.a. Canary Island Date Palm




Butia capitata a.k.a. Pindo Palm, Jelly Palm, Wine Palm




Sabal palmetto a.k.a. Palmetto Palm, Cabbage Palm (purchased wholesale for $65)




Cycas revoluta a.k.a. Sago Palm




Musa ornata a.k.a. Ornamental Banana (Royal Purple)




Bloom and flag leaf on Musa ornata a.k.a. Ornamental Banana (Royal Purple)




Philodendron bipinnatifidum a.k.a. Philodendron, Split Leaf




Trunk on Philodendron bipinnatifidum a.k.a. Philodendron, Split Leaf




Musa orinoco a.k.a. Orinoco Bananas




Bloom on Musa orinoco a.k.a. Orinoco Banana




Hyophorbe verschaffeltii a.k.a. Spindle Palm (purchased at Home Depot for $49)




Hyophorbe lagenicaulis a.k.a. Bottle Palm (purchased at Home Depot for $49)




Archontophoenix alexandrae a.k.a. Alexandra Palm, Alexander Palm, King Palm (gift from Frank at Moultrie Palms)




Canna x generalis a.k.a. Canna Lillies (please identify what kind!)




Citrus latifolia a.k.a. Bearss Lime, Tahitian Lime, Persian Lime




Fruit on Citrus latifolia a.k.a. Bearss Lime, Tahitian Lime, Persian Lime




Wodyetia bifurcata a.k.a. Foxtail Palm




Citrus limon cultivar Ponderosa a.k.a. Ponderosa Lemon (this one is next to death - what's going on here?)




Citrus sinensis cultivar Washington Navel a.k.a. Washington Navel Orange




Fruit on Citrus sinensis cultivar Washington Navel a.k.a. Washington Navel Orange




Caryota mitis a.k.a. Clustered Fishtail Palm




Ravenea rivularis a.k.a. Majesty Palm




Beaucarnea recurvata a.k.a Ponytail Palm




Another Codiaeum variegatum a.k.a. Croton




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Old 08-23-2009, 03:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Cool. The microclimate close to the pool would be more suitbale for bananas (slightly higher temps, higher humidity) than palms, but perfect. Don't you have problems protecting those palms in the winter?
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That is quite the collection! I look forward to seeing it all as it grows in. You'll have yourself a nice little subtropical paradise there in no time!
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Huge Yard--very nice! My only suggestion would be to bag those grass clipping and use them for mulch around the bananas.
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Yes, its a pretty big job protecting them on a few of the coldest nights during the winter. But I don't mind. It's worth it.
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when i saw thisthread i knew it had to be good , warning lots of pics ! loved it amazing amazing job!!! thanks so much for posting ! looks fantastic.
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OH...OOHHHH!!!

LOVE the layout!! Makes me miss my acreage in Ohio(not the weather though)
Very nice Bama Banana! I have been trying to resist palms...you are making it very hard to do!

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Scindapsus pictus is not a Split Leaf Philodendron. It would be a Philodendron bipinnatifidum, or hybrid/ variant.

Looks like the Orinocos are taking over their corner.
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Thanks, Steve. And Cheryl, palm resistance is futile!
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Wow...great pictures! I was with Matt...I saw the warning and knew this would be a good thread to check out! I can tell you've put a lot of effort into your yard and I would say the results speak for themselves! Very well done....thanks for sharing!

PS...that philodendron is CRAZY nice! I've wanted one for a while now.
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looks great, but the phoenix canariensis might be to close to the pool. it is a big palm with a wide trunk and crown.
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Yes, its a pretty big job protecting them on a few of the coldest nights during the winter. But I don't mind. It's worth it.
Mind asking what you do? Are you really zone 8? I know my palms and that Royal palm you have in the ground should be toast even with frost protection.
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Our average low extreme here is 38F in mid January. I live 18 miles north of the Florida panhandle and about 66 miles from the Gulf coast. Each year we see about 8 or less nights where temps fall below 25F. According to my weather station, the lowest temps we have seen here in three years are 19.8, 20.5, and 21F.

I usually provide no protection at all to my bananas. I continue to be amazed at how my Musa orinoco psuedostems at 4 and 5ft tall withstood the entire cold, wet winter with no protection...only to keep slowly growing and then take off and eventually make bananas this summer.

And without protection I would certainly lose many palms in the ground here like my Royal Palm, my Ponytail Palms and my Pygmy Date Palms. For protection on the coldest nights I just cover most of them with buckets and/or blankets. For the absolute coldest nights I break out the christmas lights and wrap some stuff (CIDPs, Medjools, Satsuma citrus) with comforters.

This past winter we hit the 19.8 with a daytime high of only 37F, and this method provided for no damage at all to the Canary Island Date Palms and the Medjool Date Palms. The only casualty was a young queen palm My mule palm was planted the first week in January. It is really taking off now and appears to be much more hardier than the queens.

Also, in this area you simply NEVER see most of these palms in the ground. There are no CIDPs, no Medjools and only a very few Washingtonia Robustas. There are, however, lots of Sabal Palmettos and Pindos.

I think the absence of CIDPs and other hardy palms is evidence of a "cleansing" of sorts that occurs every few years here. That's when the temps drop WAYYYY down to the low teens or even single digits. The all time low here is -1F in 1985. That would get pretty much any bananas or palm trees around here, save the occasional Basjoo Banana or Windmill Palm or Sabal Minor Palm.

I am not dilusional. A day will come when many of these plants will bite the dust. But until that day I will continue the fight, and you can bet I'll be enjoying my own little taste of the tropics
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That's great though. Nothing you can do about the freak 20/30 year events. But with those average lows, you have done very well. I saw some palms were in pots so you can just bring them in if something bad happened. What surprised me was the Royal Palm.

I want one too (royal palm), but I was just thinking what I can do when it's too tall to cover. Every few years or so here we can have a hard freeze down to 25.. Typically the yearly low is around 30F or slightly below. You going to try freezepruf this year?
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That's great though. Nothing you can do about the freak 20/30 year events. But with those average lows, you have done very well. I saw some palms were in pots so you can just bring them in if something bad happened. What surprised me was the Royal Palm.

I want one too (royal palm), but I was just thinking what I can do when it's too tall to cover. Every few years or so here we can have a hard freeze down to 25.. Typically the yearly low is around 30F or slightly below. You going to try freezepruf this year?
Yes I am going to try FreezPruf. I think that was developed here in Alabama.

You know, established Royals can probably take occasional temps in the high 20s...but with severe leaf burn. I have seen posts of several Royals growing unprotected in the Houston TX area. Of course they don't see temps as cold as here at my place.

Hey I would have really liked to have seen what the Royal would have done this year if it had started with some foliage! The protective cover I built for it collapsed due to high winds in January, while I was a away on a business trip. It and several other plants were exposed to temps in the 20s for a few nights...but everything lived.
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i love the mule palm where did u get it -how much? and how in the world did u get that palmetto for 65$!! they are 300$ here each. :O
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WOW...must be nice! I'm from Iowa....and it hit -37F this Jan (and that's without wind chill...which probably was down to -50 at LEAST). The news reporters were taking cups of hot water, tossing them in the air and it'd freeze before it hit the ground. Pretty sure Basjoos die in Iowa even if they are protected.
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Dear friend, what a nice garden you created!

Two questions:

1) could you be more precise on the ways you cover the plants on frost nights? I am not really interested in christmas lights, etc methods but on the way you apply blankets or similar things. Your methods seem in fact very effective.

2) All those bananas survive your winters with no protection????? Could you be more exact? Maybe you planted the cavendishes only this Spring and they still have to face winter? If so, which ones did actually survive winter with no protection? And which do bear fruit (regularly or occasionally)?

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WOW...must be nice! I'm from Iowa....and it hit -37F this Jan (and that's without wind chill...which probably was down to -50 at LEAST). The news reporters were taking cups of hot water, tossing them in the air and it'd freeze before it hit the ground. Pretty sure Basjoos die in Iowa even if they are protected.
Hey yeah I remember that. It was on Fox News. Stay warm this winter!
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