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Old 02-28-2008, 04:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Very nice waterfall. We have been thinking of a water feature, with a hard freezing climate would be hard to keep fish. Plus kids are OLDER now, so will be a little safer to have!
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Old 02-28-2008, 05:24 PM   #22 (permalink)
 
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Very nicely done. Looks really good and once the jungle grows up - wow. We have something on a smaller scale and find that the tadpoles and 2 fish eat the algae faster than it can grow so no need for any action.

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How relaxing and beautiful! Looks to me like you have yourself a little hydroponics set up! With constant moving water I don't think you'd have to limit yourself to water plants within the gravel/pond area! Can't wait to see another picture this summer!

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Old 02-28-2008, 06:12 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Thanks again everyone for the kind remarks regarding this project. I can't beleive it's been 2 years now since I took those pictures. Landscape has obviously changed. I'll try and be more active with this site and post more pictures this summer.
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ooops! Didn't look at the dates! Bet it sure is different looking by now!
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I honestly don't know how I missed this beautiful water feature the first time around last summer!!! What a great job you did on it. Please be sure to post pics of it this summer with your plants grown in around it.... Thanks for pulling this post out of the archives for everyone, Josh (jpfloors)
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Backyard, please do update photos of your project, looks really nice, would like to attempt something similar, but alas, in N. Illinois with sub zero temps. part of the winter may be tough, but I'ld really like to try. Thanks!
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You are JUST the person I want to talk to!

The Pondless Waterfall has been in the planning stages for me for about 3 years. This Spring is the Spring for me to get it done.

I am going to build mine in one of the front corners of of my greenhouse. I know how to construct the gravel chamber. My sticking point is, I want a DROP fall, not a cascading fall.

I want the water to come off and drop straight down from a height of about 6-8 feet. I like the look of your flat "lip stone" but I am not sure how I can construct it.

My plan is to use corkbark slabs, or a mixture of corkbark with some other substrate, perhaps just big stacked driftwood, to disguise the PVC plumbing as it rises. Large stones and river rock, shells, etc will be at the base. I suppose I could lay a lipstone across like a lintel (thinking Stonehenge here) for the water to spill over and drop from, like yours...if it was a lighter piece of flagstone it could be balanced up there and still hide the plumbing.

Do you have any suggestions for me?
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Your proposed project sounds quite interesting. I used one of those black plastic pond liners you find at Home Depot as my gravel pond, and inside I have a hidden plastic pump bucket which I drilled a bunch of holes in. Under all the boulders is a thick rubber liner. The best suggestion I could give you would be to draw a rough sketch of how you imagine your waterfall looking like, build the skeleton for it, and then let the rocks do the talking. I found two nice flat pieces of flagstone for my drop-offs at my local masonry yard and then arranged the boulders in a natural way around them. Another tip, and please understand I'm no expert, just a hobby for me, is to use pigment that matches your rocks in your mortar to make it look even more natural. I hope this helps.
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Mortar??
Ummm, I wasn't planning on using any of that, LOL.

I have a sort of vision of a loose arrangement of interesting pieces of driftwood, shells and coral, some stones, and a heck of a lot of concealing plants.

My current idea is to use PVC pipe to run up the greenhouse wall in the 90 degree angle of the corner, where I already have an 8 foot totem with a large Philodendron growing up it located. I would snake the pipe up and use the angled elbow pieces to direct the flow outward, and do something like wrap the PVC in coir fiber (like another totem) and place some mounting substrates around it, both on the ground and stacking them and attaching them to the wall so that there is a backdrop of stuff, kind of like a grotto in the corner, that has a lot of plants mounted to it (orchids, climbing philodendrons, bromeliads, ferns, some hoyas draping around, etc). Ground plantings would include some anthuriums, alocasias, maybe the cool looking Aphelandra tetragona I bought, and probably some Musa coccinea. Coccinea and Ae Ae are the only bananas I still grow in the greenhouse.

The water would fall directly down from the top of all this melange of stuff into the pondless rock-filled basin.

My dilemma and what I can't quite visualize is how to hide the water outflow in a natural way.

ANother idea I had was to use a bamboo spout as the carrier of the water, just having it emerge from all the greenery and have the water fall into the pondless area. I could still use the PVC totem idea and have the bamboo piece slide inside the top and emerge at a 90 degree angle to drop the water.

I think its just going to take some trial and error experimentation
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:27 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Lillith,
Have you given thought to having an invisible water tube? I have seen some wonderful and very tall water features which appear to have water spurting out of thin air at the top. They use clear acrylic tubes which carry the water straight up to a stone or other deflecting object which then cascades down the tube making it vitually invisible. Its a neat and very updated look for a water fountain. One that comes to mind is to have a large fawcett at the top of the acryllic tube, so it appears that the water comes straight out of a fawcett floating in mid-air. Very cool. But you could put anything on top as long as it is supported.
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Old 03-01-2008, 02:41 AM   #32 (permalink)
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How about doing something like NanaNut2 said where it comes out of the wall then goes straight up but instead of a fixed object you float something on the stream of water to deflect it down? The deflected water would hide the tubing and you would end up with something that hovers or appears to be lifting itself on a torrent of water (jellyfish!). If you did a Roswell NM theme you could put a flying saucer. Maybe try half a coconut shell or anything you can balance on the stream. How cool would it look to have the water appear to come from some floating, rotating object? I'm going to keep thinking on this, although I don't have any plans for a water feature. For the longest time I wanted to put in a pond for my koi with some kind of waterfall that made noise, it just isn't practical where we live right now.
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Those suggestions sound really cool, thank you both! I will have to do some research on that. This is still in the early planning stages, so I have a lot of time. I had thought of buying some of that new eco-friendly stuff called EpiMat to use as part of the plant mounting substrate (instead of using the more and more endangered and disappearing Cork Bark.

My Musa Coccineas are in a bad spot in the GH now and I think moving them over to this new area would be pretty cool, I might need to get another beccari and some other smaller growers for over there too.
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Get the machette ready for when the jungle starts to take over your yard.Great job
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Sorry, I meant EpiWEB, not Epi MAT! Brain on momentary disconnect. Its from Sweden, I think, made of recycled drink bottles.
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