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Old 11-30-2011, 06:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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The Weather Channel is predicting a relatively mild winter this year due to "La Nina" and I hope they're right (but, you know how that goes)! I just had two Mysores and a D. Brazilian flower within the past few weeks, so maybe they'll have a chance to actually mature fruit... we could really use a mild winter after the past two killers.

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*cough* global warming *cough cough*
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sure would love a warmer winter here!!!!
from TWC to mother natures ears!!!!!
were getting a big storm in here tonite tomorrow..
less snow..but high winds.. sigh..
im all battened down though..so i should be ok..
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Things have been farily mild too here, lately. The only thing that hasn't been mild are the winds...
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Nate I've never been a fan of the weather channel, but yeah for you La Nina's generally (in a normal La Nina episode) give the south and southeast a warmer than average winter. But up here in WI, upper Midwest etc we tend to have a below average winter temp wise, especially in the second half of Jan and into Feb. We tend to have mild falls, like this year and last, until La Nina really kicks in. December's here are average or so. Recent storms have already begun to have the La Nina pattern, coming through the Ohio Valley near here.

I'm a weather freak along with gardening. If it wasn't for the math I would have gone into it as a career! But aside from that I always plan my winterizing for my basjoo etc that I keep outside all winter based on the weather research I do for the upcoming season, using past data, patterns etc. This year and last I planned accordingly for La Nina here. You should do well I think.

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It's unusually warm here too. BUT for a change, I would prefer it to be a little colder, so that the bacteria die out. :/
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For my mix of plants, I would prefer to have a normal zone 10 winter with about 300 hours of "chill". Last year was outstanding.
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Richard I wouldn't mind having your zone 10 winter here too. What is the coldest you got last year roughly?
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I should have labeled the thread, "Warmer-than-average winter for SOME of the U.S."

I'm just so excited about even the possibility of a warmer winter! I've gone with more cold-hardy subtropical and temperate plants in recent years. It's just not worth fretting over everything.
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I don't mind a little "chill", but when it gets into the low 20's - ouch.
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I'll be happy as long as the leaves on my plants don't get frost-killed. Thankfully things have been staying relatively warm.
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Low 20s!!!! It was in the low 40s today-for the high. That felt balmy. haha!
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Low 20s!!!! It was in the low 40s today-for the high. That felt balmy. haha!
Wow! I feel lucky! Lowest it's gotten here since '00 is 31 degrees! I can actually leave my new Mysore outside all winter...
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Richard I wouldn't mind having your zone 10 winter here too. What is the coldest you got last year roughly?
My low was probably above some of your daily highs!

We had maybe 40 nights where at 11pm it was in the high 30's (F). Out of those, maybe 10 would drop to low 30's right before sunrise, and then warm up again to around 50 F within an hour. This behavior occurs in Dec., Jan., and the beginning of Feb.

For fruiting plants that require "chill hours", the critical time is between Nov. 1 and Jan. 1: the number of hours below 45 minus the number of hours above 65.
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We had maybe 40 nights where at 11pm it was in the high 30's (F). Out of those, maybe 10 would drop to low 30's right before sunrise, and then warm up again to around 50 F within an hour. This behavior occurs in Dec., Jan., and the beginning of Feb.

For fruiting plants that require "chill hours", the critical time is between Nov. 1 and Jan. 1: the number of hours below 45 minus the number of hours above 65.

It sure sounds like it! That is very interesting. Thanks for the info. There are times where we can a whole week without hitting 32 for a high. There is a huge difference between the 5 zones that seperate us.

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I'm so jealous. Next week Monday we won't even hit 31! Enjoy those warm temps!
Not to rub it in too much ... but while visiting Alaska this summer I learned that Anchorage has a warmer winter than you do, albeit in the dark.
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Old 12-01-2011, 03:15 AM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Probably will be an average winter here. November was mild here. We got to 73F on Monday and were in the 60s for about 4 days this week. Now its more December like with days in the 50s and 40s (luckily, still a good amount of 50s and sun). No hard freezes in the 10 day forecast which is good since my lantanas decided to start re-blooming! Not bad for December.
Florida defintiely deserves a mild winter! The past 2 winters have been way too cold down there!
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For those of us on the East coast we have to be concerned about the north atlantic oscillation. I believe last year was a La niña as well and we got hammered. It doesn't look like we'll have early freezes like we did last year.
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Richard I'll take the cold and some sun over the dark any day!

Nick I remember that. Yeah last year was a La Nina, and the year before was an El Nino. It's been a rough few years now. NAO does have a big impact on the East Coast and can easily override La Nina/El Nino influences for the East Coast. It was a very nasty North Atlantic blocking pattern that gave Florida snow, ah last year or the year before. I'm sure you know when that was!
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I'm not holding my breath. I'm in Houston and we've already had a little frost which has burned the leaves on some of my banana plants. That's about 3-4 weeks before our average first frost here. Hopefully it's an anomoly but I've always lost all of my banana leaves and some pstem growth to the cold here. A milder winter would be OK with me.
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