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Want delicious fruiting banana tree under 10 feet
Hi, I'm in Los Angeles, in a frost free zone and would like a small banana variety that gives delicious fruit. I planted a dwarf cavendish 2 years ago because it said 8-10 feet on the label and I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say it reached around 20 feet tall. I have cut it down in order to put in a much smaller banana.
All recommendations that meet those 2 requirements are welcome (under 10ft and delicious). I've looked at some of the varieties on the wiki and on Logee's and am tempted by the following varieties. Feedback on them is welcome. Especially appreciate warnings if they grow higher than advertised. Musa Dwarf Ladyfinger - Bananas Wiki Musa Dwarf Nino - Bananas Wiki Musa Dwarf Orinoco - Bananas Wiki Musa Dwarf Red - Bananas Wiki Banana ‘Dwarf Iholena’ (Musa hybrid) Banana ‘Lacatan’ (Musa hybrid) Also, how high do you guys have experience with Super Dwarf Cavendish getting? 3 feet seems too small for the spot I have in mind in the yard, but if it really is that size and gives delicious fruit, I may try it in a different spot. Thanks for any thoughts! |
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Re: Want delicious fruiting banana tree under 10 feet
Please understand that the fruiting height of a banana is its pstem height, not the total height including leaves. You can find more info in the Wiki (see blue bar) under Banana Morphology.
Also, if you grew a banana to 20' it was not Dwarf Cavendish. You'll find many a thread on this site about mislabeled plants. Logee's is notorious.
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Re: Want delicious fruiting banana tree under 10 feet
Raja Puri might do the trick for you.
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Re: Want delicious fruiting banana tree under 10 feet
Thanks Checker, that does sound promising. So the fruit tastes quite good?
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Re: Want delicious fruiting banana tree under 10 feet
I'd go with dwarf namwah.
It all depends on what type of banana you prefer. Bananas are plants, not trees. Common mistake... Buy from a reputable source or get it from someone here. |
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Bananas are a tropical annual that grow from a bulb. Think of them as a giant daffodil that produces fruit.
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Re: Want delicious fruiting banana tree under 10 feet
Home grown Raja Puri has an intense banana flavor.
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Re: Want delicious fruiting banana tree under 10 feet
And since arborescent refers to dicots, while a banana is a monocot ... the editors of Merriam-Webster get an F in plant morphology
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I have to agree with Richard. With the dictionnary's description, a sunflower is a tree... Ridiculous. In french dictionnaries, a tree is a tree, a plant is a plant and a bush is a bush. Way more precise. Merriam-Webster's description makes no sense botanically speaking.
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Wrong. Arborescent does not refer to dicots nor monocots. Arborescent is defined as "resembling a tree in properties, growth, structure, or appearance". Dicots and Monocotts is a classification of flowering plants which would include flowering trees. Last edited by edwmax : 01-10-2017 at 04:24 PM. |
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Every year I reflect on ideas from the past that I thought were true but I now realize are false. And so, I'm sure that some of my current ideas are false too! I view this fact as part of the humor of life.
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In the meantime though, your criteria translates to a banana with a fruiting pstem height of 6 feet. As for great taste in your environment, that narrows it down to: Dwarf Brazilian Dwarf Namwa Obtaining a pup from a southern CA member who is actually growing and fruiting them in their yard is the best way to insure success. Keep in mind that many folks only visit this site once or twice a week so give them some time to contact you.
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Thanks! I definitely enjoyed tasting the wider variety of bananas in SE Asia, so it would be good to finally taste some variety again.
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Re: Want delicious fruiting banana tree under 10 feet
I have a Dwarf Brazilian pup if you like. The fruit bunches hang about 5-7 feet off the ground, tip top of the leaves maybe 10 feet. I'm in West LA just north of the 10 off Robertson Blvd. IMO DB tastes better than Namwah and I grow both of them. I have DB fruit ready for harvest that I can share also. If interested contact me at fidowalk at gmail.com as I'm not checking in here much these days.
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Re: Want delicious fruiting banana tree under 10 feet
I would second Mitchel and Richard's suggestion of 'Dwarf Brazilian', they are relatively short sturdy plants and produce a normally very well liked fruit with a mellow but distinct tartness which gives it a very nice flavor.
I myself enjoy 'Namwah' very much, but some people tend to not appreciate them as much, especially compared to Brazilian types, as they tend to be rather sweet but with no acidity, and generally with a softer creamy texture. When I used to grow abundant amounts of them, I would often eat them raw, but found myself preferring to use them instead for drying, brewing (wine and kombucha), and making syrup. They can have a very high sugar content and so lend themselves very well to those types of activities, and the plants can be extremely productive. I would avoid 'Super Dwarf Cavendish' as although it can fruit very short and produce a nice bunch in the right conditions, more often than not it seems to have trouble doing so without complications, it's a cute plant but temperamental. And as for calling banana plants trees, in most contexts it really doesn't matter to refer to them as such. However, since we are all here to learn about bananas, I always find it's important to hammer that concept in as if you are trying to grow bananas and don't have much experience, a number of issues can easily arise if they are treated like a typical fruit tree simply because they truly are not trees and behave very differently and have different needs. It's very useful to take a step back and try to understand their inherent biology and growth habits to make informed and effective management decisions.
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