Varietal Name vs. Grocery Name

Nicolas Naranja · 12-03-2008, 11:21 PM

I am having a hard time putting a specific variety with a specific type of banana.

Which varieties are marketed as Baby, Manzano, and Burro.

Gabe15 · 12-04-2008, 02:14 AM

Baby= (AA Sucrier Group): Nino, Pisang Mas, Sucrier (many other names exist but these are some commonly seen ones)

Manzano= (AAB Silk Group): Manzano, Apple, Silk Fig... (again, there are many more but these are common)

Burro= (ABB Bluggoe Group): Orinoco, Bluggoe, Largo (same story, many more names also exist)

Manzano and Burro are both fair variety names. "Baby" however is just a marketing name and not used to refer to the plants in any official manner in the banana growing side of things.

Nicolas Naranja · 12-04-2008, 10:40 AM

Do any of the FHIA varieties fit into those groupings or are they just totally different because I believe they are all tetraploid.

Gabe15 · 12-04-2008, 12:53 PM

The FHIA bananas do not belong to any of the above groups. The groups listed above are just 3 of the many dozens that exist.

Patty in Wisc · 12-05-2008, 11:45 PM

Oh Lord!!! I'm just learning about bananas & you guys have to prove my ignorance with this stuff! Don't know what you're talking about LOL, but I'll just keep reading

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momoese · 12-06-2008, 12:16 AM

Patty, what part are you having trouble understanding? I'm sure Gabe or someone else could help if you ask.

lorax · 12-06-2008, 10:14 AM

To confuse you even more, "Babies" may also be Ladyfingers or Oritos. Check the country of origen, because that will help you determine what they are....

(IE Costa Rican "Baby" bananas are likely to be Ladyfingers or Ninos; Ecuadorian or Colombian "Baby" bananas are more likely to be Oritos; those from French Guayana or other French-speaking areas are likely to be Sucrier and so on...)

Tog Tan · 12-06-2008, 11:02 AM

Hey Patty,
I posted this link sometime somewhere before. It is a nice read and gives quite a good explanation on the various cultivar groups, etc., Give it a shot. I hope it helps.

http://www.agroforestry.net/tti/Bana...n-overview.pdf

Patty in Wisc · 12-06-2008, 11:29 AM

Thanks Tog, I read 2 pages & then bookmarked it for later. I am learning

Tog Tan · 12-06-2008, 11:59 AM

Guud for ya girl

Ya gona be an expert soon!

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