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Old 12-13-2019, 03:12 AM   #301 (permalink)
 
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Hector, I told you when you first posted a photo of the Dwarf Nino that Tytaylor77 sent you that it was not a Dwarf Nino.

Everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana was not a dwarf, and if it's not a dwarf it can't be a Dwarf Nino.

If you had simply measured a leaf blade and divided the length by the width you would have realized that it was not a dwarf.

Unfortunately it's very common for some seller's to ship the wrong bananas and that's why buyer's should take a few minutes to learn the basics about identifying a banana.

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Next, you should have looked at your banana for signs of balbisiana.

The Dwarf Nino is an 'AA' diploid and has no signs of balbisiana.

Again, everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana has balbisiana in it so it can't be a Dwarf Nino or any other 'AA' diploid or 'AAA' triploid.

Next, you should try to determine the amount of balbisiana it has.

Again, everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana has a heavy amount of balbisana and most likely is an 'ABB' type.

There was never a chance that your banana was a Dwarf Nino because everything pointed to an 'ABB'

It should never have taken you over a year to figure that out.

The next step was to figure out which 'ABB' cultivar Tytaylor77 sent you.




It was not surprising that your 'AA' Dwarf Nino turned out to be an 'ABB' Monthan.

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I have seen a few wum's on this forum over the years, but you completely take the biscuit, how you managed, not too have been banned on this forum I'll never know.

Instead of mentioning if a "Dwarf Nino turned out to be a ABB Monthan" maybe you need to ask yourself why you sent a fake off/type clone Goldfinger instead of a true type FHIA-1 Goldfinger, shouldn't you know the difference.

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I have seen a few wum's on this forum over the years, but you completely take the biscuit, how you managed, not too have been banned on this forum I'll never know.
It's very simple. I don't lie and I keep the topic about bananas.


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... maybe you need to ask yourself why you sent a fake off/type clone Goldfinger instead of a true type FHIA-1 Goldfinger, shouldn't you know the difference.
I've never sent a "fake off/type clone Goldfinger" to anyone and the moderator should ban you for lying.

Please post a quote about your "fake off/type clone Goldfinger".

I was the first member to make a thread showing members photos of the Real Goldfinger from planting to harvest and how to identify it.

I made that thread because all the photos of the FHIA Goldfinger members on the mainland were posting were photos of a different FHIA cultivar. The thread was supposed to help members learn how to identify their FHIA cultivar without just telling them what it was. Some members were upset when I said their banana was not a Goldfinger so I called it the "American Goldfinger". This gave those members a temporary name for their banana until they figured out what it was. I figured once they realized what they were growing they would drop the name "American Goldfinger" and call it by it's real FHIA name.
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How you word what you write and repeat to call out “everyone” for missing the ID after the fact just shows how little you think of “everyone” compared to yourself.



This is my quote from Jun 6, 2018. It was written two days after Hector posted a photo of his young plant and it certainly wasn't after the fact.

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That doesn't look like a Niño and it doesn't even appear to be a dwarf.

It does look like a beautiful plant, congrats.

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I wasn't calling out other members.

Distinguishing between an "AA" diploid and "ABB" triploid is so basic I truly believe most of our members immediately realized that you did not send Hector a Dwarf Nino.
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It's very simple. I don't lie and I keep the topic about bananas.




I've never sent a "fake off/type clone Goldfinger" to anyone and the moderator should ban you for lying.

Please post a quote about your "fake off/type clone Goldfinger".

I was the first member to make a thread showing members photos of the Real Goldfinger from planting to harvest and how to identify it.

I made that thread because all the photos of the FHIA Goldfinger members on the mainland were posting were photos of a different FHIA cultivar. The thread was supposed to help members learn how to identify their FHIA cultivar without just telling them what it was. Some members were upset when I said their banana was not a Goldfinger so I called it the "American Goldfinger". This gave those members a temporary name for their banana until they figured out what it was. I figured once they realized what they were growing they would drop the name "American Goldfinger" and call it by it's real FHIA name.
First and foremost this is Hector'thread and I don't want to be disrespected it, by have a mudslinging match with yourself, after this reply i wont replying back to yourself

You didn't send me a fake FHIA -1 Goldfinger, but you know very well who you sent it to, someone who tried to contact you multiple times with out a reply, as you knew he was going to flower and fruit it and it was a fake.


Funny thing is now you are trying to contact him and he has no intention of replying to you.


And for the record I don't need to lie, as bananas are my hobby not my income.

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OK, so someone lied to you and now you are repeating it as though it was true.

I can't sufficiently respond to your lies until you post more information.

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.


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First and foremost this is Hector'thread and I don't want to be disrespected it, by have a mudslinging match with yourself, after this reply i wont replying back to yourself

You didn't send me a fake FHIA -1 Goldfinger, but you know very well who you sent it to, someone who tried to contact you multiple times with out a reply, as you knew he was going to flower and fruit it and it was a fake.


Funny thing is now you are trying to contact him and he has no intention of replying to you.


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Hey Hector! My spy told me that you recently harvested your Praying Hands! How many hands 7,8? How many months/days from first flower to harvest? Congratulations!

Don't forget to check your Patupi!!
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OK, so someone lied to you and now you are repeating it as though it was true.

I can't sufficiently respond to your lies until you post more information.

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
I would respectfully ask you to have some integrity and class and not bash your fellow forum members like Hector ,mushtaq86 and Ty.

This is our hobby and our passion so please .. lay off the business side of your banana operation in sales and treat your forum friends with the respect they deserve.

Ive been on here since the start of the group and no one would ever act like this before....

Mistakes will happen that is life but theres a word in the dictionary called Humbleness. Make things right with whomever.
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Honestly, I'd rather never have Red French Plantain than acquire it though this seller. Small or large offer, this guy does not reply. Almost like he lives for this sort of drama. He literally never replied until both times I DM'd him and I told him I wasn't interested anymore. He's not getting a third chance.

I have purchased from countles sellers and have never experienced such poor communication before. It makes it even worse that he attacks everyone he knows on online forums when he feels threatened.

Hector is seriously one of the kindest people I know.. he makes everybody feel happy even if their plants aren't that impressive. Like mine for instance. I grow only basjoo in the ground and he makes me feel professional. He literally congratulates everyone he sees who has ever been happy about Musa. If he misidentifies a plant and is patient to wait for a bloom, so what? All you see is economy and you have forgotten the true passion for Musa. Time to go back to the basics. Why did you get into Musa in the first place?

I have over 300 varieties of different plants and I make mistakes sometimes. It's human nature man. Seriously come down to earth every once in a while.

Constructive criticism is the best way to go about things. Treat your peers with respect. Since you think about money all the time, you reap what you sow. if you are diligent in responses and nice to people, you will make more money. It has always been a facet of economics.

Anyways I hope this doesn't happen again. Constructively criticize your friends. Don't butcher their love for banana plants by being rude.
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Folks it is true.......this seller will lie to you sell you a plant..
Patupi will fruit in your zone say's this seller..buy it from me says this seller.
Fact is....you are on your own.
It does not grow...it is your fault...
Short cycle......your checkbook....his account.
Who are you speaking of? (Please excuse my ignorance... I'm mainly here for the musa not the drama! no comprende)
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Who are you speaking of? (Please excuse my ignorance... I'm mainly here for the musa not the drama! no comprende)
Mentioning companies is a no no.

I am here for the plants too..it does not matter what kind.
Many new forum members need direction and this is a good platform to help.
Generally everyone wants to do good.......I think.

This thread seems to be about new plants a member has acquired and apparently it went off the rails when plants were distributed,
misidentified and integrity questioned.


I have the plant in question also and love it.
The plant was received as a late season bare root pup and now the plant is an eight foot beast under dim lights for the winter.
This will be my 2nd observable season with it.........I might get a flower in 2022
The plant I got...I will take it as a bonus.
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*****An Update!*****



Woohooo!.....The calm after the storm!.....WOW!.....
Really thank you guys for the unconditional support!....I'm impressed!....



*****Again, I won't enter here in a dispute or an argument!.....From my part this ends here!.....Next time, I will let the forum moderators to deal with the drama!....I don't have time for that!*****






Musa FHIA-2 Mona Lisa keeps growing nicely!....She opened the new leaf recently!....I love the red markings on the P-Stem!....Thank you Dan (bananimal) for sending me a nice size Mona Lisa corm!....



Pictures from 12/19/2019.....


















Recently, I received a couple of big Musa Dwarf Red corms from Master Beam (beam2050)!....Thank you buddy!....One of them, was transplanted to a pot using coarse sand and lots of perlite mix!....It started to push out already!....



Pictures from 12/22/2019....

















Woohooo!.....Finally, I harvested my first Musa Praying Hands bunch!*****Taste Report!*****Musa Praying Hands is a creamy Nana Variety with a hint of vanilla flavor to it!....One of my favorites!.....So far I have tasted The Real/True To Type Musa Blue Java, Musa Namwah (Pisang Awak, both tall and dwarf) and the only one with a hint of vanilla taste to it it's Musa Praying Hands!....



Pictures from 12/11/2019.....

















Musa Monthan started to open female flowers (bananas) again!.....This is one of the few Nana Varieties in the world that opens female flowers (bananas) again after opened male flowers!....What a productive Nana Variety!....As mentioned, this is the plant in question, that turned out to be a monster grower!.....Look at that bunch!.....Woohooo!....One of my best Nana growers!.....


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Nice praying hands bunch! I thought you have had one or two blooms already?!?!? Hurricane?







MONSTER monthan bunch! Good job!
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Nice praying hands bunch! I thought you have had one or two blooms already?!?!? Hurricane?







MONSTER monthan bunch! Good job!




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Thank you!....You are right!....I lost my prior Musa Praying Hands bunch!.....It was bad timing for flowering, blooming!....Musa Monthan is a monster!....










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Hector

Great to see, FHIA-2 Mona Lisa doing well, can't believe how quickly you root and get growth on your corms, Dwarf Red is looking good, I'm really interested how tall you get this to fruit, as i am hoping to fruit a dwarf red in a very large pot, in the near future.



Can't remember if you have Musa Saba, if you do, how dose the fruit compare with Praying Hands, taste wise.

Strange seeing a banana opening female flower's after Male flower's regarding Musa Monthan.
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Hector

Great to see, FHIA-2 Mona Lisa doing well, can't believe how quickly you root and get growth on your corms, Dwarf Red is looking good, I'm really interested how tall you get this to fruit, as i am hoping to fruit a dwarf red in a very large pot, in the near future.



Can't remember if you have Musa Saba, if you do, how dose the fruit compare with Praying Hands, taste wise.

Strange seeing a banana opening female flower's after Male flower's regarding Musa Monthan.




Mushtaq,




Thank you bro!....No Musa Saba for me!....I called Musa Saba "The Greenhouse Pole Holder!"...…......I had tasted Musa Saba fruit as well, which is an awesome Nana Variety, but I still prefer Musa Praying Hands creamy with a hint of vanilla flavor/taste!....I will keep updating on the Musa Dwarf Red!.....Musa Monthan is an amazing Nana grower!....










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Woohooo!.....I was waiting for this one!.....Another stellar Nana Variety!.....Finally!.....I received Musa Ele'Ele Maoli, the black ivory beauty!.....It was drooped by Rene (Greenie), one of the old times, original forum members!.....Thank you bro!.....And thanks to Chris (Rmplmnz, another old time forum member), for sending me the huge Ele'Ele corm!....I appreciate it buddy!....Trust me guys, this is one of the hard to get Nana Varieties!.....



I received Musa Ele’Ele huge corm!...I mean literally huge!....


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Picture of Musa Ele’Ele huge corm taking a bath of water with bleach!....I used the "2 steps procedure!".....Means 5-6 minutes in boiling water first, then 5-6 minutes in water with bleach!....Musa Ele’Ele was inspected, cleaned before using the "2 steps procedure"!....


Picture from 12/29/2019....








Also, I separated 2 nubs that the Musa Ele'Ele huge corm had it!.....Just to make sure all the energy goes to the corm to push out!


Picture from 12/29/2019....









Musa Ele'Ele huge corm and nubs transplanted to pots using coarse sand and lots of perlite mix!.....


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Woohooo!.....I was waiting for this one!.....Another stellar Nana Variety!.....Finally!.....I received Musa Ele'Ele Maoli, the black ivory beauty!.....It was drooped by Rene (Greenie), one of the old times, original forum members!.....Thank you bro!.....And thanks to Chris (Rmplmnz, another old time forum member), for sending me the huge Ele'Ele corm!....I appreciate it buddy!....Trust me guys, this is one of the hard to get Nana Varieties!.....

I received Musa Ele’Ele huge corm!...I mean literally huge!....

Hector,

Best luck with the new plants.....you are on an incredible course..

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Woohooo!.....I was waiting for this one!.....Another stellar Nana Variety!.....Finally!.....I received Musa Ele'Ele Maoli, the black ivory beauty!.....It was drooped by Rene (Greenie), one of the old times, original forum members!.....Thank you bro!.....And thanks to Chris (Rmplmnz, another old time forum member), for sending me the huge Ele'Ele corm!....I appreciate it buddy!....Trust me guys, this is one of the hard to get Nana Varieties!.....



I received Musa Ele’Ele huge corm!...I mean literally huge!....


Picture from 12/28/2019....









Picture of Musa Ele’Ele huge corm taking a bath of water with bleach!....I used the "2 steps procedure!".....Means 5-6 minutes in boiling water first, then 5-6 minutes in water with bleach!....Musa Ele’Ele was inspected, cleaned before using the "2 steps procedure"!....


Picture from 12/29/2019....








Also, I separated 2 nubs that the Musa Ele'Ele huge corm had it!.....Just to make sure all the energy goes to the corm to push out!


Picture from 12/29/2019....









Musa Ele'Ele huge corm and nubs transplanted to pots using coarse sand and lots of perlite mix!.....


Pictures from 12/29/2019.....












A couple of pictures from forum members of Musa Ele'Ele Maoli, the black ivory gem!.....What a beautiful Nana Variety!....

















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Hector

Wow Ele Ele, well done my friend, what is your success rate, regarding nubs, or is it simply how much energy the central cylinder has left, to push out roots.
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Hector

Wow Ele Ele, well done my friend, what is your success rate, regarding nubs, or is it simply how much energy the central cylinder has left, to push out roots.



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Thank you bro!...It happened to me in the past, that the nubs takes over the main corm!....Basically, (most of the time, not all the time) the bigger nubs takes all the energy from the main corm, therefore the main corm sacrifices, for the nubs to make it!....You have more chances separating the nubs for the main corm to get established!.....Also, with the size of this Musa Ele'Ele corm (huge), it helps to get established quickly, fast!....










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