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crazy banana 09-04-2017 01:06 AM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
I only have very few banana plants in pots but agree with pitangadiego "be patient".
I should not say that because I sell fertilizer ;) but I NEVER fertilize a plant in ground or in a pot until I see healthy new growth.
Take it easy on the water also. Don't overwater.

Ablessed 09-04-2017 08:32 AM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
I have uploaded a photo of the two plants into my gallery and named it "Translant Shock."

obdiah 09-04-2017 03:01 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
I am not an expert but dosent look like transplant shock to me more like a deficiency of some kind normal ageing also gives this look to a dying leaf but probably not the case here
how does the last leaf to emerge look does it also show the yellowing edges? is it ok to put pic in post ? if not I will remove it also I have dc,s die to the ground and grow back from the corm for no apparent reason


Ablessed 09-04-2017 06:36 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
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Originally Posted by obdiah (Post 309211)
I am not an expert but dosent look like transplant shock to me more like a deficiency of some kind normal ageing also gives this look to a dying leaf but probably not the case here
how does the last leaf to emerge look does it also show the yellowing edges? is it ok to put pic in post ? if not I will remove it also I have dc,s die to the ground and grow back from the corm for no apparent reason


They were very healthy, not fully grown, perfect candidates for transplanting, I thought. This condition started right after the transplant. Perhaps I didn't use the right soil. I bought typical potting soil from the supermarket. I also added some soil from other pots I had standing around. Yes, the newest rooled up leaf is showing some distress (yellow) too.

obdiah 09-04-2017 08:09 PM

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puzzling that the new leaf is failing I would think that would rule out transplant shock even newly separated pups with little root on them may loose their leaves but the new leaf shoot is almost always fine maybe some one else has some input maybe something in the new potting soil ?

Danounet 09-04-2017 08:22 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
Hmm just how cold are these bananas getting?

What kind of potting soil is that?

Don't kill your plants with love =)

Ablessed 09-04-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Danounet (Post 309215)
Hmm just how cold are these bananas getting?

What kind of potting soil is that?

Don't kill your plants with love =)

"Miracle-Gro Moisture Control Potting Mix 0.18-0.10-0.10"

"Protects against over and under watering. Feeds up to 6 months. Absorbs 33% more water and releases it to roots as needed."

Also, they are not getting cold at all. They are indoors (22 Deg. Celsius).

Ablessed 09-04-2017 10:57 PM

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So could I be underwatering if the soil is retaining the moisture in order to "control" it?

Ablessed 09-04-2017 11:02 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danounet (Post 309215)
Hmm just how cold are these bananas getting?

What kind of potting soil is that?

Don't kill your plants with love =)

Thanks so much for pointing out the soil! I dug the bag out of the garbage to look at it. Sure enough, 33% more water is being absorbed by the soil! That means the plants get 33 % less water from normal watering!!!

I've watered them real good now... I hope it's not to late to save them.

Ablessed 09-04-2017 11:22 PM

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I just read bad reviews about the moisture control soil! Looks like I'd better re-pot ASAP if I want to save them!

Tytaylor77 09-05-2017 01:32 AM

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Yes!! Repot ASAP!! Go buy some perlite! Mix a normal potting mix (I like earth-gro) by scotts. It has I would say 80% rice hulls mixed in! Perfect mix for bananas. Mix any potting soil with 50% perlite!!! The perlite will retain water in its micro-cracks for root access. Without keeping roots soggy. The perlite also keeps the soil loose, light, and fluffy! Allowing more oxygen to roots! Bananas love perlite! I buy mine in 4cf bags from my local feed/farm store. Very cheap. $14 a bag I think.

The yellowing on the outer edge of the leaves is a sign of overwatering. More the water crystals in the mix than you I'm sure! If the plants were outside the edges would be brown (burned from the sun).

When you repot if you see any brown/dead roots trim them off! They will rot against the corm. Pups are good size they should be fine!!

Ablessed 09-05-2017 01:20 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
I have the two plants drying their roots in the sun. Both of them have severely damaged roots. If I have to trim most of them off, cant he plant recover?

I got a good potting mix from a local greenhouse. No package, just something they dug out of the back room with lots of perlite. Very light-weight soil, looks a lot like the soil the original banana plant came in, so I am confident about it. They told me to add a little bit of worm castings.

The root ball is quite wet. Should I let it dry more before repotting? Or will it dry out in the new light-weight soil?

edwmax 09-05-2017 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ablessed (Post 309233)
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The root ball is quite wet. Should I let it dry more before repotting? Or will it dry out in the new light-weight soil?

That is a sign the corms have developed a fungus. The fungus will 'draw' water from the roots & corm making the wet root ball. You need to kill the fungus by washing the corm in bleach water and remove ALL the old soil. Then re-pot not need to sun dry. Also, continue to mist & folar feed the plants until new roots regrow.

Ablessed 09-05-2017 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by edwmax (Post 309236)
That is a sign the corms have developed a fungus. The fungus will 'draw' water from the roots & corm making the wet root ball. You need to kill the fungus by washing the corm in bleach water and remove ALL the old soil. Then re-pot not need to sun dry. Also, continue to mist & folar feed the plants until new roots regrow.

Thanks so much for your prompt reply. Was just sitting here wondering what to do. No car to go and get more products. This is great. I'll update later.

Ablessed 09-05-2017 03:09 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
Here is an update:

I washed with bleach and trimmed all black roots. I tickled all the old soil away from the root system.


Then I placed the plant in the new soil. The question that remains is: Do I water these plants now?

Also, the cut areas where I trimmed the leaves are now bleeding brown water. Is that from the bleach (I dunked them into bleach water while tickling away the olds soil).

obdiah 09-05-2017 04:30 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
banana sap turns brown as it dry s and stains every thing it touches and its permanent

edwmax 09-05-2017 04:32 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
Make sure the pots will drain water and not hold water. Give about 1 cup of water to each pot.

The thick white roots do not take up water & nutrients. Small hair roots will have to grow,, so this will take a couple of weeks.

Ablessed 09-05-2017 05:53 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwmax (Post 309241)
Make sure the pots will drain water and not hold water. Give about 1 cup of water to each pot.

The thick white roots do not take up water & nutrients. Small hair roots will have to grow,, so this will take a couple of weeks.

I will give a cup of water, but how often? Once a day? They will drain well now.

I didn't rinse the root ball after dunking in bleach water. I hope that won't pose a problem.

edwmax 09-05-2017 06:31 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
It would have been better to have rinsed the corms in clear water, but the bleach would have neutralized by now so don't worry. ... a cup of water mow and 1/2 cup in 8 to 10 days if the top 1 1/2 inches is dry. The plant wont grow any for now, so we only want to keep the potting soil moist to dry until there is a new leaf showing. Mist the plant leaves 2 or 3 Xs a day. The upper plant will take in the water it needs from misting.

Ablessed 09-06-2017 03:27 PM

Re: Transplant stress: Is there hope?
 
I am misting the plants 3 x a day. How often should I spray with fertilizer (using 24-8-16)?

(Oh, I see now edwmax said once a week.)


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