Are They Dead? I Need Help.

tribeone · 02-12-2008, 05:09 PM

Guy's I don't know what happened to my bananas. They look dead to me. Take a look and tell me what you think I should or could do. Ther pic is of my dwarf
canvendish.

bencelest · 02-12-2008, 05:29 PM

Looks like the roots are still fresh.Put it back and water it once with warm water and put it in your kitchen window. When Spring comes, you'll be surprise new buds will sprout like the Phoenix. Forget about it for now. On the 1st pic cut the dried stem about 2 inches above ground. Perhaps transplant it one size bigger than the original pot because it looked like the roots are compacted. Don't fertilize it for now. Wait until new leaves started to sprout.

island cassie · 02-12-2008, 09:26 PM

Be patient as they are hard to kill - one of mine has just started to grow after dying back for 4 months. Good luck!!

Cassie

bencelest · 02-12-2008, 11:05 PM

The number one killer of bananas is overwatering so water it once and wait until the first 1 1/2 inch of top soil is dry before you water it again with lukewarm water.

xavierdlc61887 · 02-13-2008, 12:01 AM

hey yeah i got a corm from southlatropical and it was doing ok then it dried up like yours and then until now like 1-2 months later it showed life so im pretty hyped about that.....nanas are pretty strong u just need some patience and you will be surprised to see how tough they really are

ok laters and hope that helps

mrbungalow · 02-13-2008, 02:08 AM

Time for a musa-funeral. Definately dead. Even musa species have limitations.

If the roots were alive, you'd see some white roots too. Here it's all black and the stem is mush and probably attacked by fungus or other pathogens to the point of no return.

If the plant would have been bigger or "killed" in another way, it could come back. The case you're showing is a perfect example of winter exhuastion, when you try to overwinter a plant in a dark and warm room and water frequently in good faith.
Sadly, it happens here every year when I try to overwinter plants inside..

Go to IKEA or Home Depot and buy another fresh plant! :-)

Erlend

Panaroma · 02-13-2008, 05:24 AM

Like Erlend stated, I agree, it has probably put out its last leaf.
Try some other species; Cavendish sucks if you ask me! Lots of better ones out there!

mskitty38583 · 02-13-2008, 10:29 AM

that is so sad. im sorry to hear of the passing of one of the family. best wishes on the next one.

tribeone · 02-13-2008, 10:33 AM

Thanks for all the help guy's. I am going to hold on to it and hope it comes back, but I am also going to buy another banana. Do you guys have any sudgestions? I live in North Cali in the bay area.

bencelest · 02-13-2008, 11:27 AM

I am just telling you my own experience. I am not an expert like Mr. Bungalow and I will not dispute his conclusion but bananas are hard to kill. Even from the experience of some people here. Just like last year I ordered a small t banana and died. Much worst looking than you have. And smaller too. I planted it on the ground and left it there. I forgot all about it but 4 months later a tiny leaf came out of the ground.
Now I don''t know what it is because I threw away my tag. It not only happened to me one time but 3 times. When I thought they are goners but they came back much to my surprise.
Please let us know the outcome since you are doing some experiment here seems like.
I live in central California and close to the ocean so your zone should be like mine.
Just take my advice like a grain of salt.

Benny

Bananaman88 · 02-13-2008, 12:46 PM

I definitely wouldn't toss it out yet. Repot and give it a chance, it can't hurt! I've seen them come back when I would have sworn they were goners!

sandy0225 · 02-14-2008, 05:22 PM

I'd probably soak it in a bucket of warm water for 30 minutes or an hour with 1t physan 20 or other good fungicide, give it a good trim on top and bottom where the roots are brown, then moisten some promix (or other good well draining potting soil) with some warm water, repot it but not water it in. Set it in a good warm sunny place or on a heat mat in sunny place and don't water it until the top of the soil is dry about an inch in. Then water it again with warm water. Maybe mix in a little superthrive if you have some for good measure in that soaking bucket, it claims to bring plants back from the dead.

bencelest · 02-14-2008, 08:23 PM

Sandy:
I like your way of transplanting . I think from now on I will adopt your way.
Thank you so much.

Benny

Ahava · 02-14-2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandy0225

I'd probably soak it in a bucket of warm water for 30 minutes or an hour with 1t physan 20 or other good fungicide, give it a good trim on top and bottom where the roots are brown, then moisten some promix (or other good well draining potting soil) with some warm water, repot it but not water it in. Set it in a good warm sunny place or on a heat mat in sunny place and don't water it until the top of the soil is dry about an inch in. Then water it again with warm water. Maybe mix in a little superthrive if you have some for good measure in that soaking bucket, it claims to bring plants back from the dead.

If I knew how to do the thanks button I would. That's some awesome info right there. Thank you Sandy for that, I agree with Bence.

buzzwinder · 02-14-2008, 11:58 PM

bencelest · 02-15-2008, 12:09 AM

Whoa..........Bill, that's awesome!!!!
I like it very mucho.

mrbungalow · 02-15-2008, 03:25 AM

Just out of curiousity, what kind of light and temp. levels has this plant been subjected to the past few months?

Bencelest and the others are not wrong, bananas can come back from the most certain death in some situations. But the ones who come back usually has a little bit of energy stored in the corm and cells.

In my experience, it's lack of light and relatively high temps. making the plant spend all it's energy reserves at once ( something like a drunk spending all his money at once in a Casino!) - thereby leading to lack of energy reserves and vigour, leading to rot/fungus that kills a bananaplant.

AnnaJW · 02-15-2008, 04:41 AM

I wouldn't give up. I've had several plants that looked like that. I left them alone, and pups came up from seemingly nothing! One took at least six months to come back.

Panaroma · 02-15-2008, 07:18 AM

Mmm, nice info Sandy, thanks a bunch.
I notice when the plant has his emotional value, one becomes quite bond with it.
I understand cause I'm actually quite attached to some of my nanners myself, but on the other hand, some will be tossed like they were long bearded dwarfs... honestly.
Mostly, if they don't score on my testingscale (read; resistance to cold, vigorous, beautyfull) they change their names into Roger, grow transluscent wings, spin harder, faster, and eventually take off and fly to that welldeserved nanaheaven... full of flavours.
Tribeone, California,... feels warm in my imagination. Wat are your nightemps at the moment?
Anyway, if its a dear nanasweetheart, give it a chance, sure. If it doesn't get born again, don't get discourraged, just get anotherone... cause Nanners can extend your flavour of beauty dramatically!

Panaroma

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Panaroma Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 42 BananaBucks : 756 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Are They Dead? I Need Help. Like Erlend stated, I agree, it has probably put out its last leaf. Try some other species; Cavendish sucks if you ask me! Lots of better ones out there!

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tribeone tribeone's Photo Gallery Find me on the map! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 67 BananaBucks : 615 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Are They Dead? I Need Help. Thanks for all the help guy's. I am going to hold on to it and hope it comes back, but I am also going to buy another banana. Do you guys have any sudgestions? I live in North Cali in the bay area.

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bencelest Banana Nut bencelest's Photo Gallery Location: California Zone 9 Zone: 9 Name: Benny Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,524 BananaBucks : 8,759 Feedback: 2 / 100% Thanks: 2 Thanked 177 Times in 155 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Are They Dead? I Need Help. I am just telling you my own experience. I am not an expert like Mr. Bungalow and I will not dispute his conclusion but bananas are hard to kill. Even from the experience of some people here. Just like last year I ordered a small t banana and died. Much worst looking than you have. And smaller too. I planted it on the ground and left it there. I forgot all about it but 4 months later a tiny leaf came out of the ground. Now I don''t know what it is because I threw away my tag. It not only happened to me one time but 3 times. When I thought they are goners but they came back much to my surprise. Please let us know the outcome since you are doing some experiment here seems like. I live in central California and close to the ocean so your zone should be like mine. Just take my advice like a grain of salt. Benny __________________ Banana Nut Last edited by bencelest : 02-13-2008 at 12:02 PM.

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Panaroma Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 42 BananaBucks : 756 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Are They Dead? I Need Help. Mmm, nice info Sandy, thanks a bunch. I notice when the plant has his emotional value, one becomes quite bond with it. I understand cause I'm actually quite attached to some of my nanners myself, but on the other hand, some will be tossed like they were long bearded dwarfs... honestly. Mostly, if they don't score on my testingscale (read; resistance to cold, vigorous, beautyfull) they change their names into Roger, grow transluscent wings, spin harder, faster, and eventually take off and fly to that welldeserved nanaheaven... full of flavours. Tribeone, California,... feels warm in my imagination. Wat are your nightemps at the moment? Anyway, if its a dear nanasweetheart, give it a chance, sure. If it doesn't get born again, don't get discourraged, just get anotherone... cause Nanners can extend your flavour of beauty dramatically! Panaroma