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Old 05-23-2009, 05:07 AM   #61 (permalink)
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I asked Jeff Earl today if he had ever tried growing Texas Star and he said he hadn't. He said he got his banana from Texas in the 80s and it was over 10 years after that before he had heard of Texas Star.
I've been growing bananas at home here in Seattle since the early 70s. I can assure you that I've read about TX Star since the 70s. Whether or not Jeff has known about TS in the 70s or the 80 or the 90s is really irrelevant to me, or this discussion, because I've acknowledged, time and again, that they appear to have "discovered" their booties independently. I have never claimed one or the other "discovered" their plant ahead of the other. Only that I learned of, and was interested in, TS as early as the 70s. I've only learned about CG in the early 2000s. If you say that Jeff only learned about TS in the 90s, what that tells me is that that's when he heard about it. Just as I'm saying that I learned about TX in the 70s. Also, if I were to believe, and I do, your statement that Jeff got his banana in the eighties from TX, leads me conclude that TTN found TS ahead of Jeff's "discovery" of his CG. Beyond that, I make no further conclusions.

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I don't believe comparing potted bananas is a reliable way to compare most bananas as watering is more variable, etc. I also think you need to take a banana to fruiting to make a meaningful comparison.
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You asked me where I based my statement that it would appear that the TS was a little more cold hardy than the CG because you believed no one has ever done a side by side comparison. After I gave you my basis, you now state that you don't believe potted bananas is a reliable way to compare most bananas, and introduced another parameter in your challenge, i.e., "watering is more variable . . . . . needs to . . . . fruiting, etc." I thought you were asking my basis for why I thought one was a little more cold hardy than the other, and nothing about fruitfulness, or superiority of one over the other.

Given the description I wrote that the TS's from TX and the CG were in the same area of the greenhouse, and the TS from TTN was 3-feet to the North of it in the same greenhouse, would it not be safe to assume that when one plant is watered the others in the same area would also be watered? It appears to me that you have a preconceived idea, based on your belief, on how these plants are supposed to behave, and when shown otherwise, you have to say that there may be other influences to make that happen the way they did. Okay. All I'm saying is that this is what I have. It may be a fluke. But it is what it is, at least for these plants. I have stated before that I do not agree with the adage that "Seeing is Believing". Rather, to me, "Seeing is knowing". It doesn't mean that I don't believe in anything. Rather, it means that I do not have to see it to believe in it, and when I see it then that's what I know.

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I haven't grown Dwarf Orinoco (I would have except Wellspring sent me a mystery banana instead, though I was very happy with the quality of the fruit which was harvested in late December, just 4 months after flowering), but many others have grown it and have reported that California Gold has fruited for them much more reliably.
Since we're talking about production, and I have not had any of either variety produce any fruit, I believe you. But I'm hoping that they both would produce well for me (if ever).
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:09 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Chong, you're excessively argumentative so, in your own words, please chill. Maybe you just needed more sleep.

I mention Jeff's knowledge about the Texas Star just because I asked him if he had ever tried growing it. By the time Jeff had heard of Texas Star he was more than satisfied with his California Gold. That's it. NOTHING MORE! Okay? Don't get into a pissing match over the comment.

Fine, you gave the basis for your comparison and you think for some reason its off limit for me to discuss it??? I explained why I think more is done to compare these varieties besides plants in pots. Hopefully, you can fruit them one day outside.
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Guys, don't argue, we are here to help each other, not get crazy over some statements.
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:18 PM   #64 (permalink)
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like i said earlier i can aquire a fruiting size "tyty tx star" corm for each of you. by using my idea that i posted earlier. this is the only way you can really say you have the "ty ty tx star". you two can each do your own separate tests. i dont know who has a california gold mat and want to give a few large corms.

i would love for the two of you to have big corms in the ground and do the tests. its the only way to settle it . lets do this . i have lots of space here i can also grow the two here just to make sure its unbiased. you two will have to finance the corms first of course. i could start with only a small sucker and grow it in the ground. you two should give it hell. if anything should ever happen to your corms during testing you can always get one from me anytime(i hope to establish a mat).

let me know something soon..now is an ideal time to start. the weather is perfect not too cold or hot.
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The amazing thing is that there are so many different species of bananas (a plant that is primarily propagated vegetatively by corm divisions). I have seen the same banana species look very different under dissimilar soil, climate, precipitation conditions, etc.,

Anyway, the board is amazing in that we all get to experience the wide variety of species growing under such a diverse range of conditions. I am hoping to see Fehi growing in French Polynesia next month.


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Agreed, Chris! Bring me a pup of that Fehi if at all possible.
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How would I go about getting a Texas Star' TyTy will not ship to ca. Thanks
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Tony, see Ronald's comments above, he has offered to get one from Ty Ty for us that want one, though I've got some that should be headed my way this summer from another source.
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tony if you want one i can get you a fruiting sized one as soon as you cover all the the costs. i will make sure i see them take it from the mat. so there is no doubt that its whats its supposed to be. if you order by mail its a crap shoot ill tell you that now.

maybe they ship what they have in reach if they dont feel like going into the elements and digging?? i think its more laziness than really trickery with that bunch.
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I will take you up on the offer.I don't need a fruiting size one though. One of the small corms is all I need.
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ok,hypothetically if i got enough serious people wanting tx star i could probably get 1 gallon pups shipped to their door for $25 ..you get exactly what you want.their minimum shipping cost is $20.00 no matter what you order.

there will probably be people thinking im making a profit from this?

remember i do have to drive there,watch them get the pup from the mat,and plus ship your stuff to you.this would definately be a one time offer..
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Ronald, it's readily apparent you're offering this as a generous offer to help others. If you make a dime you'll be lucky but it will be well-deserved!
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ok,hypothetically if i got enough serious people wanting tx star i could probably get 1 gallon pups shipped to their door for $25 ..you get exactly what you want.their minimum shipping cost is $20.00 no matter what you order.

there will probably be people thinking im making a profit from this?

remember i do have to drive there,watch them get the pup from the mat,and plus ship your stuff to you.this would definately be a one time offer..
Hopefully when you go there one of the hott chicks (possibly in a bikini) from the Ty Ty web site pics handles your order.

On a serious note it would be cool to see some "actual" pictures of the place.

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Hopefully when you go there one of the hott chicks (possibly in a bikini) from the Ty Ty web site pics handles your order.

On a serious note it would be cool to see some "actual" pictures of the place.

I wonder if TyTy would give Ronald a discount if he (or anyone of us) poses as a model in a bikini for their website.
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I wonder if TyTy would give Ronald a discount if he (or anyone of us) poses as a model in a bikini for their website.
Ha ha..that might result in a price Increase....
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Old 05-24-2009, 01:28 PM   #77 (permalink)
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I wonder how they decide who to rip off and who to impress? Either way, well done to you!
Maybe they just read this forum, find out how and when you order, and depending on what you wrote about them, they will send you the plants.
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if you are reading this thread after o5/26 10:00 e.s.t. then you will be too late to request anything. for all the people who p.m.ed me about the tx star i will do everything in my power to satisfy your request. thanks.

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Update?.. Did you get to go by the nursery Ron?
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Update?.. Did you get to go by the nursery Ron?
See the discussion Ron started at reliable source of texas star

In short, he went there and things were a mess.
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