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Old 02-11-2017, 09:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Unhappy SOS: HOA wants my banana TREES removed

A new owner in the association evidently does not apreciate my banana plants and I have been notified by my HOA PM that I need to remove my banana "tree" because it was not specified in my landscaping project approved in 2015.

The plants have been in the ground for over a year. There are 1 mature, 3 tall and several pups growing around the base of the mat. The mature plant is with fruit and harvest could be in April.

Are there any experienced banana plant growers among us in the Tampa Bay area?

I garden solo and need some help removing, adopting out or transplanting to my city's garden. If you have any other ideas or thoughts on this I would be grateful.

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Old 02-11-2017, 11:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Wow! That sucks! Any chance you can move them to a different spot in the yard that might be approved? I hope you can leave the one in the ground till the fruit is ready.
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Thus is the reason I have no desire to live in a planned community...Nosy busybodies who do not pay my bills telling me what I can do with my own property. I would tell em to stuff it and fight the order. But, that is just me...
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Thank you for your kind words. My local native plant nursery suggested I just cut the bananas back after harvest, which would basically remove them from the visual landscape.
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WoW! "Not specified in your landscaping project"!!!???
Sorry for not understanding but seems like you live in a museum? HOA?!
And I grind about place where I live.......
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Lydie just say to the new owner that he is Bananas And if you want to keep your Banana tree put him in a container whit and move him so the HOA cant say nothing about you Banana tree
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What does that mean? what is HOA? are you are renting a house, you planted a banana and you weren't supposed to?
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Lydie,


I'm sorry for the situation with your HOA!....Hopefully you have the opportunity to harvest the fruits!....Thanks God I don't have HOA in my community!....

If you are not authorized to trans-plant them in a different spot (permanent spot) in your yard and you want to keep the plants, consider trans-planting them in pots!....Since they will be in pots would be much easier for you "to move them around" in different spots on your property! (you get the idea!).....
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What does that mean? what is HOA? are you are renting a house, you planted a banana and you weren't supposed to?
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HOA = Homeowners Association
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I hate HOAs. They have no legal right to dictate what you can or cannot do in your own yard. I'm waiting for the day when Congress passes a bill to allow homeowners to sue their HOAs like HMOs several years back. You'll watch them evaporate overnight. A private entity CANNOT take precedence over laws. As soon as someone proves this in court, there will be millions of free Americans telling their HOAs to go 4^<3 0*%.
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They have no legal right to dictate what you can or cannot do in your own yard.
Actually they do, it's right there in the property Title.
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I understand your POV, but that's because you sign your rights away. They say that is optional, you don't have to sign, but you do.

If you don't sign, you can't purchase. Legally, that is extortion, and it is illegal. It's only a matter of time before these things are challenged in court, and they will be ruled unconstitutional.
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... If you don't sign, you can't purchase. Legally, that is extortion, and it is illegal.
No it isn't: it's a condition of sale. Extortion has a different legal definition:

the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
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Because of one new person? What do they do, walk around the neighbourhood with a vest on looking for things they don't like? lmao! Someone not liking something has nothing to do with the law right?. I don't see why you should comply. If there are overhead wires, height restrictions that's different. But not because they don't like the apearence of something that's not on the city's property.
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Actually it has to do with the terms of the HOA which vary by state and property. It all cases they can have exterior landscaping removed by a simple vote of the board.
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Which is exactly why they need to be abolished. I'm convinced most HOA board members are told what to do by their wives, and this is their one little grab at power.
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Typically they follow recommendations from the property management company they've hired for maintenance, accounting, etc. In this case it might be that the landscapers did not want to work around and/or maintain a banana plant.
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I wasn't going to comment, but ....

One I would review the HOA Landscaping requirements and the terms of your deed.

Two, determine why the banana plants are not allowed. Was it because they simple were not listed on the 2015 approved landscaping plan; or do they not meet other landscaping requirements. Is there an oversight remedy for over looked plants that would have otherwise been approved.

Three, was this HOA committee action or result of a complaint from one owner?

Four, I would request copies of the landscaping plans of the neighbors. Then see if their yards meet all HOA requirements. (which I doubt) Make complaints against them too. Especially, the Owner that complained about your bananas.

If you can stir up enough of the owners, then you might be able to get a landscaping requirements changed and/or approval for your plants. ... This is a situation where some tend to 'bluff' the requirements to get their way or make themselves a 'big-shot' in the HOA. So know exactly what the requirements are; and question the HOA why you are being single out when other owners do not meet the same requirements.
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WOoW That's actually sad
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What does that mean? what is HOA? are you are renting a house, you planted a banana and you weren't supposed to?
Hi HOA means Home Owners Association (HOA) and as I mentioned, these plants are part of a landscaping project for my outdoor space, submitted to the board of directors and approved in 2015.
In answer to your question, yes, I planted the bananas within the borders of landscape project bed.

As we at bananas.org know, bananas are not "trees," so contrary to the accusation, I have not gone beyond the bounds of my landscape project which speaks of planting "mostly Florida native plants and shrubbery".

If I wanted a fight I could argue, it's a grass plant, not a tree but I have a great aversion to conflict and donot see a long term win. HOA like the IRS, also get their way.
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