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Old 05-07-2017, 03:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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The only time I use it is in an indoor closed rez feeding plants, added either when they start to smell or when I go somewhere for a week in hydro for tomatoes. It works well for that.

Of course for sanitizing purposes you would use a higher concentration for a quick wash on something as strong as a banana corm.
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At 2 drops per gal is approximately 26 ppm. ... The recommended rate to disinfect 'drinking water' is 6 to 12 drops per gal. That is approx. 79 to 158 ppm. ... Open air containers over time (few hours) the chlorine will dissipate and the water will have no chlorine taste or 'free chlorine' to kill bacteria. Chlorinated drinking water (aka: city water) should not hurt plants as this is used all the time to water plants in the city. ... A simple test for free Chlorine is taste or smell. ... You have a lot of room to increase the chlorine concentration if needed to maintain 'free chlorine'.


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My math is off because I didn't correct for the concentration of 8.25% bleach. The correct chlorine contents are:
2 drops per gal => 26 ppm x .0825 (8.25% bleach)= 2.145 ppm of chlorine

EPA emergency chlorination of drinking water:
6 drops per gal => 79 ppm X .0825 = 6.5 ppm of chlorine
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12 drops per gal => 158 ppm X .0825 = 13.0 ppm of chlorine

As a note, due to mineral & organic content of well water, it usually takes 10 ppm (+/-) of chlorine (chlorine load) to neutralize this content before 'free chlorine' can result.


Drinking water chlorine content is low compared to water/chlorine solutions for general disinfection & cleaning starting at about 200 ppm.
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The only time I use it is in an indoor closed rez feeding plants, added either when they start to smell or when I go somewhere for a week in hydro for tomatoes. It works well for that.

Of course for sanitizing purposes you would use a higher concentration for a quick wash on something as strong as a banana corm.
I understand ... You're working to keep algae growth down and piping clean in the presents of system fertilizer. If the concentrations are working for you, I wouldn't recommend changing anything. ... However, your comment does demonstrate one practical agricultural use of bleach.
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Default Re: Some p-stems stop growing?

As for the stems not growing, every time I use a product with Potassium sulfate in it, my plants stop growing altogether for a few days to a few weeks. I used organic tomato fertilizer a while back and everything stopped on all my plants except the big mat of Brazilians, but after a few weeks all are doing ok now. Smaller plants seem much more susceptible to this.
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As for the stems not growing, every time I use a product with Potassium sulfate in it, my plants stop growing altogether for a few days to a few weeks. I used organic tomato fertilizer a while back and everything stopped on all my plants except the big mat of Brazilians, but after a few weeks all are doing ok now. Smaller plants seem much more susceptible to this.
I agree on young plants. I use only organic on my small stuff. The 3'+ (Depending on variety) get chemical fert to supplement.
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Should I keep cutting down a little at a time, until a good leaf shows? Or just cut it in half? Not sure what to do about this.

Two of the other chokes have resolved themselves, but this and one other stem are still not moving.
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Should I keep cutting down a little at a time, until a good leaf shows? Or just cut it in half? Not sure what to do about this.

Two of the other chokes have resolved themselves, but this and one other stem are still not moving.
The brown indicates dead tissue...you will need to cut further down.
There might be a slight bulge where the stem is stuck, it is there you cut.

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The brown indicates dead tissue...you will need to cut further down.
There might be a slight bulge where the stem is stuck, it is there you cut.

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I've looked on the stems that aren't growing and I don't see any bulges. Cut down a little further, but don't see any live tissue in the middle. Mostly brown mush in the center. I'll keep cutting back after work today and see if I can get to something living. If they choke long enough, do they just die back to the ground?
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The brown indicates dead tissue...you will need to cut further down.
There might be a slight bulge where the stem is stuck, it is there you cut.

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Cinci, that's wicked!

Do you use Hostafarian as your name on other forums? I've seen that name before lol
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I've looked on the stems that aren't growing and I don't see any bulges. Cut down a little further, but don't see any live tissue in the middle. Mostly brown mush in the center. I'll keep cutting back after work today and see if I can get to something living. If they choke long enough, do they just die back to the ground?
Short answer is yes.....but.

Could be it is just dead to the corm......but all is not lost.

Give the plant some time and some pups will pop up.

This could be you in a couple of months.
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I think with this one, the original stem was the one that died back. But it's got several full-sized and mid-sized pups already, so no problem in the long-term. Just wanted to save as many stems as I could.
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Old 05-27-2017, 06:11 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I think with this one, the original stem was the one that died back. But it's got several full-sized and mid-sized pups already, so no problem in the long-term. Just wanted to save as many stems as I could.
So did it work????

I had to lop a couple more in half yesterday because they showed signs of being stuck......and they were.
All the spring rain and cool weather is not good for plants that are not growing.
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Default Re: Some p-stems stop growing?

I didn't find any leaves that were stuck like yours were. I was able to cut back to part of the stem that was not rotten, but not sure if it will do anything but become rotten soon.



The other stem that is not really growing has a center leaf that just isn't opening up. One side of the leaf must have burned off, but the other half of the leaf is still curled up in the middle. It's been like that for weeks. I've tried to cut back around the center leaf and manually unroll some of it, so photosynthesis can keep it moving, but no luck so far.

Most of my other stems are throwing out huge leaves like crazy right now.


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