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Old 03-25-2018, 05:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default small pup corms attached to mother corm

I over wintered my Orinoco's bare rooted in my garage this winter with a lot of dirt still on the corm ball. (was very wet when digging them up), I've been trying to get them ready to go back in the ground. after removing all the dry hardened dirt I found that what looks like, that when I separated the pups from the mother (before digging up the mother) I didn't get close enough to the mother corm. ( my first year for doing this).

There are what is left of the pup corm still attached to the mother corm. most of them are at the bottom or very near the bottom of the mother corm and coming up the side of the mother.
They will snap off of the mother corm easily and leave me with like a small corm like bulb.(don't know if they would grow or not if planted )
my question is ,,
should I snap them off or leave them attached when replanting?

also should I trim off all the thin stringy roots from the mother before planting?

I have some pics if needed, hard to see what i'm talking about from the pics,, hopefully some one will know what i'm trying to explain

looks to me if I leave them attached and they try to grow it will produce a big pup to start with,(don't necessarily need this) and/ or take some nutrients from the mother.
If they don't grow they may rot and cause some rotting of the mother corm

Snap them off or leave them???

Thanks in advance
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Old 03-25-2018, 06:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: small pup corms attached to mother corm

this is the mother with corm pieces attached



this is the top where I cut the pup off



this is the bottom where I snapped it off the mother



I have five 10 + footers that each have at least five of these on.. some have snapped off already from rolling the plant around



this is earlier in the year with the dirt still attached, and the outside was getting moldy, (didn't know at the time it was part of the pup corm)



Thanks again for any advice
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Default Re: small pup corms attached to mother corm

I would just set 'em back in the hole as they are. Leave any pups on the corm. Most of those roots look good to me. There is not rot. ... The plant will know what to do.

I'm sure other will have their own way of doing it.
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I would just set 'em back in the hole as they are. Leave any pups on the corm. Most of those roots look good to me. There is not rot. ... The plant will know what to do.

I'm sure other will have their own way of doing it.
Thank You very much for your input.
I don't guess any one else has ran into this situation. guess I'll try to do a better job of digging the pups next year
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Thank You very much for your input.
I don't guess any one else has ran into this situation. guess I'll try to do a better job of digging the pups next year
Like Edwmax advised, just put it in the ground. You don't need to knock any dirt off the corm. Mix some compost in the hole with the native soil, water in good and forget it until you see new leaves.

If the pup grew after separating, then you did fine.
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Default Re: small pup corms attached to mother corm

I ran into this too, Separate once they get established. It's something we don't really notice until the pup breaks soil surface or gets a bit of stem. Those are some big plants! How long have you been growing them to get to that stage? also what zone are you in?
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I ran into this too, Separate once they get established. It's something we don't really notice until the pup breaks soil surface or gets a bit of stem. Those are some big plants! How long have you been growing them to get to that stage? also what zone are you in?
Should be about 7a, Marshall county, Western Kentucky.

This was my first year for them

I got five plants from a fellow, Don't know how old they were, I'm assuming they were last years pups from the way they looked

The two biggest ones on the right were about three - four inches in diameter at the base and four - five foot tall (p stem) no leafs .
The other three were about half that size,
one of them, I guess the shortest one, rotted about a half a foot from the corm so I cut it off.

Planted them and they took off to this size in about six months.

every one in the neighborhood was totally amazed, including me!!!

He said they liked lots of water and fertilizer, so I fed them heavy with commercial triple 13 with pelleted lime as a filler, and had the neighbor water them about every day , (unless it rained).
They are at my lake house on Kentucky lake and I'm only there on the weekends

they are supposed to be Orinoco's,, I wonder how tall they will get this year?
That is a ten foot ceiling they are standing in

I don't think some of the pups wintered too good, (about thirty from these five plants),
they seemed to have rotted up the center of the corm. (outer corm and stalk look good), that's why I think I didn't get close enough when cutting the pup off, (was afraid of getting too close to the mother).

first year, living and learning!!!
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