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Bob 10-03-2010 02:51 PM

This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
This seems to be the year for lots of us to get blooms or a flag popping up late so I thought I'd join in...

First my Veinte Cohol threw out this start of a flag earlier in the week:


Yesterday I was working in the new side garden and hadn't been over there in about a week since it had been raining and cool out. Sure enough...... the Velutina ( or is it Dasycrappa now? ).. threw out this bright red start of a flag:


I guess in New Jersey I should just count my blessings and be happy with it but... NO!
I think I can dig and pot the velutina without disturbing the roots and its early enough I can keep it in my front porch that I'm starting to move plants into now...
The Veinte Cohol....
: (
Too big to bring in and ... since it only takes a few months from flowering to mature ripe fruit on this variety I may try to protect it with a plastic cover...I'll let you know

Really not sure whether to smile or pull my hair out over it... may as well enjoy the success however minor I suppose...

kaczercat 10-03-2010 03:04 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
:woohoonaner: congrats Bob they look great hope it goes well with both !

Dalmatiansoap 10-03-2010 03:18 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Bravo Bob!
BTW how are IC naners doing? Its been some time...
:nanadrink:

Bob 10-03-2010 03:26 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
The Ice creams are fattening up but not getting much longer. I'll post a pic of them soon so you can see before I build the plastic tent over them to get an extra few weeks of warmth... I may have a few otherlow tech season extension tricks I'm going to try as well.

Angelstar 10-03-2010 04:18 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Have you thought of using a fleece wrap to protect it during the night and even day when it gets a bit too chilly??

The Hollyberry Lady 10-03-2010 04:41 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Always bragging about your bananas, eh Bob? I should have known you'd have more flags before the end of the season. :eek:


Why you!





Nonetheless...












Patty in Wisc 10-03-2010 04:59 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
You STINK Bob.:)

ron_mcb 10-03-2010 05:13 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
bob i dont know how you did it but you managed to still tie with me for the number of banana plants that you had bloom this year.:bananas_b

Bob 10-03-2010 06:01 PM

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Angelstar.... yeah I have garden fleece( we call it remay here... or at least I did for the past 20 years!)and I know a lot of tricks to overwinter or extend the season for other things but the bananas are so big that its tough and it gets very cold here... we'll see. Tah.

Thanks HBL... why are you being nice to me? .... "Depends" on your mood I guess ? :ha:...oh I know..... not to worry your plants have been packed and will shortly be on the way:ha:

Patty... you're the banana queen and you stunk first but.... thanks:08:

Ron,.... luck of the draw man... these plants were over a year old and .... just got lucky I guess.

saltydad 10-03-2010 08:51 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
That's great news, Bob. You certainly have the magic thumb!

And 'dasycrappa....I love it!!!

Bob 10-08-2010 04:33 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Not giving up!!!!

I decided to carefully dig up the M.Dasycarpa( Velutina) really carefully and was sure I wouldnt do any damage to the roots and think I may have pulled it off.... here it is in it's 12 gallon pot right after digging... It's in my front porch for the winter now and looking like there's been no transplant shock at all... I'll post either way if it does well or not.



I'm thinking now that I may be able to do something similar with the Veinte Cohol. Something Jon ( Pitangadiego) told me and stuck with me was that even if a banana fell over while fruiting to just leave it and the bunch would likely continue to mature and ripen. It's too tall for my front porch and too late in the season to leave out but ..... if I carefully dig that up and left it at an angle so it would fit indoors.......hmmmmm?
I'll keep you posted one way or the other.. never hurts to try right?

The Hollyberry Lady 10-08-2010 04:36 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Wow Bob...that's just way too cool! :goteam:


Thanks for sharing. Good luck...


: )

Dalmatiansoap 10-08-2010 04:50 PM

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Never give up!:ha:
Bravo, now U have a chance to have your own pink naners!
:woohoonaner:

Kostas 10-08-2010 07:42 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Well done Bob!!! :woohoonaner: I hope it rewards you with a nice bunch for your labor!!!

Looking forward to see it's progress!


Regarding the Veinte Cohol,I would say that you shouldn't have any special problems planting a too tall banana at an angle save for instability which can be solved with a few well placed supports so as not to create a stress point on the pseudostem.

Patty in Wisc 10-08-2010 09:29 PM

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Good idea to just 'lean' it somewhere! You sure didn't have much notice for that flower bud...no smaller size leaves - like, flag of a flag of the flag LOL. Can't wait to see how many fingers.

CoryS 10-09-2010 02:55 AM

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Awesome work, dude! :D I'll be watching to see how good that Velutina [dasycrappa, lol!] does. That's one I'm very interested in! And def congrats!

Bananaman88 10-09-2010 08:36 AM

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Cool, Bob! You've had a lot of success up there this year. I think your velutina will be just fine. Good luck with the VC.

I just returned to Aruba and my IC put out a ton of fruit while I was gone! I'll try to post some pics in my "Oh sure! Now it decideds to bloom" thread later on.

Bob 10-13-2010 04:39 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
I can't stand to give up.... the velutina is in my front porch and showing no signs of transplant shock and the bud is showing some signs of growth.

The Veinte Cohol was way to big to even lay half way down in the porch with the other plants and I was sure it was doomed ........ till I remembered a friend of mine( who I gave some pups to last month) had about a 12 ft tall sunroom.......hmmmmm? A sip of the Scotish nerve tonic for inner strength and a quick phone call and the Veinte Cohol was on its way.... even with a 6 or so ft p-stem once it was potted it barely fit but.... sometimes you try to make things work:



It almost hit the glass ceiling but... it made it.


Sure maybe it wont make it being transplanted in flower like many have suggested but... not for lack of trying. I'll post updates no matter what.

The Hollyberry Lady 10-13-2010 04:42 PM

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Totally cool, Bob! Looks super! :waving:


: )

Dalmatiansoap 10-13-2010 04:48 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Well done Bob!
:nanadrink:

chasbear 10-13-2010 05:05 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Nice work Bob, and such dedication too! Nice to see its all paying off, and of course what doesn't work out will always add to your knowledge base of what you can do there.

Kostas 10-13-2010 05:07 PM

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Wow,quite some effort was put in this,well done Bob!!!
I hope it makes it fine and produces some bananas for you!!!:bananas_b

Bananaman88 10-14-2010 11:31 AM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Nothing wrong with trying. I'd try to keep it on the dry side to keep it from growing too much over the winter. If you're lucky, you can put it back out in the spring and it'll pick up where it left off this year. It's tough to keep them inside and in a dormant state. The warmth seems to make them want to grow even if kept dry.

hydroid 10-14-2010 11:55 AM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Plus one on bad timing. One of my Goldfinger just started a flag leaf. I'm just hoping and praying my Raja puri does'nt flag. I pampered it too much this year.
Bo

hammer 10-14-2010 12:08 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hydroid (Post 144219)
Plus one on bad timing. One of my Goldfinger just started a flag leaf. I'm just hoping and praying my Raja puri does'nt flag. I pampered it too much this year.
Bo

how tall is your bananas. i seen the weather for this winter they say its going to be above average.

Bob 10-16-2010 04:57 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
The Dasycarpa has been in the house for a week now and the flower has grown and is opening!:woohoonaner: Sure the best I can hope for is a stunted flower and bunch but it's still exciting for New Jersey so I'll keep posting some pics till the bitter end. Here's todays shots... the bud starts to open:


and sure enough is revealing some tiny flowers underneath !!!! :woohoonaner:

It'll be fun looking at this grow when there's snow on the ground in a few months. I have read that moving a flowering plant indoors or to a pot from the ground is useless but in this case it seems to be working and in my climate about all you can hope to do.... you never know unless you try.

The Hollyberry Lady 10-16-2010 05:03 PM

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Looks so pretty, Bob! Totally awesome that it's opening for you. :08:


Love the color!


: )

Kostas 10-16-2010 05:30 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Thats awesome Bob!!!

I hope it develops and matures properly for you!!! :woohoonaner:

saltydad 10-16-2010 05:36 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Love these dasycrappas!!!

hydroid 10-16-2010 05:59 PM

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Hey Hammer
Most everything I have is pretty tall, I have a couple of goldfingers that are slightly smaller than the one that flagged, maybe 12 ft. or so. My raja puri is about 5 ft. tall.
If we have a mild winter, I should have some fruit next year.
Bo

Dalmatiansoap 10-17-2010 08:27 AM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
"Jersey Pink Banana time" sounds like a great movie title!
:nanadrink:
great going Bob!
:woohoonaner:

Bob 10-17-2010 10:25 AM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap (Post 144479)
"Jersey Pink Banana time" sounds like a great movie title!
:nanadrink:
great going Bob!
:woohoonaner:

Not touching that one! ..........:ha::ha::ha: But I'd go see it:woohoonaner:

hammer 10-17-2010 10:30 AM

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:woohoonaner::woohoonaner:Bob that is cool looks awsome.

enigma99a 10-17-2010 01:13 PM

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I just noticed two IC flowers yesterday. Already starting to open and I didn't even realize it.. Bad timing :( All of these near 100 degrees lately have really pushed them quick. But it's going to get cool soon

kaczercat 10-17-2010 04:56 PM

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Beautiful color Bob, just planted some seeds hope they turn out to look like this next year .

Bob 10-21-2010 03:13 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
I was worried that bringing a plant dug from the ground at flowering would shock it too much but it seems to be working, here's shots from the last few days as new petals opened to reveal little pink edged whitish bananas which soon turn pink. I'm sure this one's going to make it now and hope it will inspire others in climates where bananas wouldn't survive to at least try for some extra success.


A few days later ( today):


I'm thinking that the M. dasycarpa(Velutina) is the perfect plant to grow in a pot or indoors for those climate challenged gardeners who lack the space indoors for a larger plant. This one even in a large , tallish pot would fit in even a small crowded room so literally anyone could successfully grow this one.

stumpy4700 10-21-2010 07:03 PM

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Great news Bob, I love that you have been able to transplant the Velutina indoors after being in the ground. That's definately on next years list. Well good luck on the VC. I guess mine is going to wait until spring if I can overwinter it in the garage ok. I hope the only flags you've seen have been Naners and not out in the woods (if you know what I mean, not to offend anyone). Once again good job.

Bob 10-22-2010 03:13 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stumpy4700 (Post 144860)
I hope the only flags you've seen have been Naners and not out in the woods (if you know what I mean, not to offend anyone). Once again good job.

Thanks Stump, yeah I've been seeing plenty there too but..... enough said!
; )

natej740 10-22-2010 05:22 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
congrats looks like it's doing great inside. How long did it take to flower? I have some seedlings and can't wait till they bloom.

Bob 10-23-2010 09:31 AM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
The really cool thing is that this is just a first year plant.... technichally anyway. I first got it last year and when the mother plant was a little taller than the first one flowering now I accidently broke it in half walking by it in the crowded garden. The mother plant died in it's pot over the winter and this Velutina flower is on a first year pup but , with a 2 year old corm. Still it seems this is just a great variety to have for those of us in the north with limited space ...and impatient waiting for a bloom.

Kostas 10-23-2010 04:50 PM

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Looking good Bob!!! :woohoonaner:

Bob 10-31-2010 03:22 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Welll I hadn't heard from my friend with the Veinte Cohol I had dug from the garden and couldn't find room for here. She had been away for a week and when she got back exitedly calling me asking what was going on and there was a "Red thing " sticking out with what looked like bananas on it?
Needless to say I paid a visit.........
It not only lived but had been producing bananas the whole time she was away and when I got there I was about in shock!!!! I cut a leaf and some of the petals away for these photos:


Not only was it still growing but, it had put out a bud.... with about 80 to 100 bananas on it.


not only that but, instead of the stunted bunch I had barely hope would emerge it was producing double layered hands containing 20 or so little bananas on each of them and just thriving!



Experts have said that this would be too much stress for the plant and couldn't be done. The fact is , is that most of those in the scientific community are rightly only concerned with commercial production and would have no reason to experiment like those of us in colder climates so... never let anyone tell you what you can't do until you've tried it and failed on your own..... at least when it comes to growing bananas out of zone:ha:

Dalmatiansoap 10-31-2010 03:28 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Bravo Bob!
Thats well said, I like that!
Congrats on more time.
:nanadrink:

natej740 10-31-2010 04:19 PM

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sweet...congrats bob!

Angelstar 10-31-2010 04:56 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
I have a Fatsia Japonica over 5 foot tall in my back yard that has been there for 3 years now. I don't feed it or give it any special treatment yet it has survived 3 winters outside now with no special protection, including last winter which was the coldest and longest winter in the UK for at least a decade...It has suddenly decided to flower, I will try and get a photo of it tomorrow and post it. It has never flowered this late and certainly not usually after it has started to get really cold and we have had at least 3 hard frosts to date this month

nannerfunboi 10-31-2010 05:00 PM

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way to go bob!! i am major jealous..
i got my plants out this last week..
how cold does it get in NJ? here in provo ut.. we can
get below 0 not there for long..but can..
i pulled out my basjoo as well..they started as just 1ft tall..got
over 5' so im pretty pleased..
my biggest were ensete maurelii..and glaucum.. both got over
11' tall.. the maurelii is huge.. the base is really heavy..had help lifting that
out ..im storing in cold part of house..
what to do next yr after summers growth.. sigh.. but..
guess thats why we do this.. we love these plants.. :08:
thanks to all here.. its helped me a ton..
actually cant wait for next spring.. LOL

Kostas 10-31-2010 07:35 PM

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Thats awesome Bob,congratulations!!!!!:woohoonaner:

Its great to see it unaffected from the move and putting out so many bananas!!!I hope they mature well for you!!!:nanadrink:

harveyc 10-31-2010 08:00 PM

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Congrats, Bob, looks like your hard work is paying off!

Bob 11-04-2010 05:07 PM

Re: This seems to be happening to everyone this year... more tales of bad timing!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nannerfunboi (Post 145911)
way to go bob!! i am major jealous..
i got my plants out this last week..
how cold does it get in NJ? here in provo ut.. we can
get below 0 not there for long..but can..
i pulled out my basjoo as well..they started as just 1ft tall..got
over 5' so im pretty pleased..
my biggest were ensete maurelii..and glaucum.. both got over
11' tall.. the maurelii is huge.. the base is really heavy..had help lifting that
out ..im storing in cold part of house..
what to do next yr after summers growth.. sigh.. but..
guess thats why we do this.. we love these plants.. :08:
thanks to all here.. its helped me a ton..
actually cant wait for next spring.. LOL

Thanks for the compliments NFB. Here in New Jersey we generally get down close to zeroF for a few days> Last year it "only" got down to 4F and the year before -4F some years a little colder or warmer... you never know.

Bob 12-01-2010 05:43 PM

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Just visited my veinte cohol and now we're planning a banana party for when they ripen. I cant believe this plant is doing so well. It was dug up when the first sign of a flag showed and left on my porch for two days before I got the idea to move it to a friends house and pot it up. Supposedly this was impossible but ... you can see that it's not. I hope more people in northern climates will be inspired to go the extra mile. The worst that can happen is failure..... the best:


My friend loved the look of the bud so it was left on the plant:

I like it too!:ha:

Here's another angle of the bunch:


You havent lived till you've been to a mid winter banana party in New Jersey!:woohoonaner: :ha:


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