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Old 08-02-2015, 01:13 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Your yard looks amazing great job.
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It's amazing to me that this thread has only six pages of responses in the years that it has existed.

Your citrus collection is more idiosyncratic than most. How did you decide on what citrus to include? To exclude?

How many of your seedling avocados have remained in situ through to first-fruiting? Or have more of them spent their first years in containers?

Have you fruited your Inga?

I'd be interested to know if you've taken a core sample to examine your development of humus over time. I'd love to see a picture of that! (Do you chip the trimmings from your own trees? What does that amount to annually?)

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Wow..thank you! Very flattered by your nice comments! Dozens of Banana.org members have visited the garden (as many as 5 at a time) and taken thousands of corms. I have made many awesome friends in person and on-line thanks to the Board.

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Thanks, I have lost more citrus than I am currently growing. I have always loved citrus, 20 years ago I had a good friend that owned a citrus nursery. Buying grafted plants for $3 each is a bargain. I wanted fruit that was unavailable for purchase in stores and Key Limes are awesome! I first saw Pommelos at another friend’s local nursery. 20 years ago I was pretty active in the Tampa RFCI (Rare Fruit Council) chapter.



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How many of your seedling avocados have remained in situ through to first-fruiting? Or have more of them spent their first years in containers?
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They key was to spend zero time in containers as this restricts the root growth/development significantly. Ten or so years ago I was on a Mango eating expedition with the Tampa RFCI and we visited a Merritt Island Mango grove, picked and ate different mangos to our heart’s content! The grove owner, whose name is escaping my memory right now, eschewed grafted plants that had circuitous root balls. I did not plan which avocado seedlings would grow, I just shoved avocado seeds throughout the yard, fast forward a few years and thriving trees. It is amazing how much faster seedlings grow than grafted pants. We have seedling canistels , avocados and a mango (all grow at triple the rate of grafted plants I have purchased at nurseries).

I am notorious for biting off “way” more than I can chew. I was at an abandoned trailer park (destined for demolition to make way for a planned development) collecting (2,500) old style Augusta and other bricks at 9 ˝ pounds each I collected over 2,500 pounds (severely going over my truck’s cargo capacity) nightly for a week until 11 p.m. When I came across a seedling avocado…..my mind thought “wow…a big mature avocado”. Easy enough I dug the avocado tree out of the ground…getting the tree in to the truck..another issue. At over 400 pounds..even the crazy fitness beast that I was at the time (2006) I could not leverage that tree in to the truck. I gave up and called a friend and went back with my wife and friend and we got the tree in the truck. This is the avocado tree in the videos referred to as the “Trailer Park” avocado. It has massive so so tasting fruit with very smooth green skin. It was over 7 years in our yard before it started fruiting. The tree had been “banded” by it former owner to induce fruiting.

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No, it froze completely to the ground in 2011. I gave it up for dead when a tiny sprig popped out of the dead stump.

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I'd be interested to know if you've taken a core sample to examine your development of humus over time. I'd love to see a picture of that! (Do you chip the trimmings from your own trees? What does that amount to annually?)
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No, we have never take a core sample…most of the garden (50’ by 110’) looked like this in December of 2005:


Same section of the Garden August 2008:


We do not chip our own trees.

In good years we add over 15 tons of leaves, horse manure and wood chippings, following is post that goes in to more detail:

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Grafted citrus for $3? Wow, where I live they're $30!
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This was a good friend of mine that owned a commercial nursery, he sold to retail nurseries.

These were small plants in the "sleeve" nursery pots. I always buy the smallest size, amazing how fast plants grow in the right climate.
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19 Blooms/Racemes

Dwarf Brazilian (3)
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Monkey Finger
Ele Ele
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Old 09-06-2015, 08:13 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Thanks for taking the time to give us another tour. Beautiful!
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With such an abundance of fruit of so many different characters, what banana are you most excited about seeing bloom? What will you do with the first of this ripe fruit?

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Nice update. Things look maxed out.
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Thanks Jeff, still hoping you can make it to Tampa sometime and load up....Ele Ele, Hua Moa (quick from bloom to harvest).

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Thanks, probably Monkey Finger as in the past the pseudostem always broke (hence why I put a bamboo support on the raceme). We like them all, although the DB is probably the most consistent fruit producer with fruit on the lower end of the quality spectrum (everyone has their favorites).

Our neighbors and co-workers are always excited about the diversity of the bananas. I frequently hear "yes you have given me these before..I like the "little bananas". It is a waste of time to try and explain these are not the same "little bananas" as the ones I gave them a few weeks ago...LOL.

We usually eat them fresh, then freeze, dehydrate and give away the extras.
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What type of dehydrator do you use when the bell of over-ripeness tolls? Nesco? Excalibur? I'm a fan of vacuum-sealing upon dehydration. What's your approach?

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We just use a cheap one (stack able trays, variable heat and a fan) that I have had for so long I cannot remember how or when I got it. I agree with the vacuum-sealing after drying (if only my wife would allow me to buy another single purpose kitchen device) we store the dried bananas in the fridge.
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We just use a cheap one (stack able trays, variable heat and a fan) that I have had for so long I cannot remember how or when I got it. I agree with the vacuum-sealing after drying (if only my wife would allow me to buy another single purpose kitchen device) we store the dried bananas in the fridge.
I picked up a very small but quite adequate Black and Decker "foodsaver" at a yard sale for $6; it's small enough to tuck under the front seat of my truck. Go forth and search for one. Your wife would never know you had it but instead wonder at the marvelous little sucked tight bags you miraculously produced.
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This looks awesome! I just got 5 acres in south Florida to start a permaculture tropical fruit farm for a non-profit im working for. I hope it looks as good as this in a few years time. Now I just gotta get WAY more than the 5 banana trees we have on the site now. Awesome Job. I'd love to see what your soil looks like. We just started getting organic material delivered and we are starting to do the same thing you did with building the "forest floor" over our florida sand.
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This looks awesome! I just got 5 acres in south Florida to start a permaculture tropical fruit farm for a non-profit im working for. I hope it looks as good as this in a few years time. Now I just gotta get WAY more than the 5 banana trees we have on the site now. Awesome Job. I'd love to see what your soil looks like. We just started getting organic material delivered and we are starting to do the same thing you did with building the "forest floor" over our florida sand.
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Come on over with a truck and load up....I have had members visit and leave with over 100 corms.

We also have Royal Poinciana seed pods, sugar apple, plumeria and many other tropicals. You are welcome to all of the seeds, cuttings, rhizomes and corms you can carry!
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that would be awesome. I'll be in touch.
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Rmplmnz, this is amazing! I watched all your videos on YouTube (at list I think it was all) and I can say you live in Paradise. :-) Good job!
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Rmplmnz, this is amazing! I watched all your videos on YouTube (at list I think it was all) and I can say you live in Paradise. :-) Good job!
Wow, high praise. Thank you for the kind words Gala!!

It helps to live in the same house for 23 years (after living in 20 different houses/apartments/townhomes/duplexes/etc., the first 20 years of my life).

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Great video and thanks for the name drop on the Royal Poinciana. We saw these in bloom down in the Keys over Labor Day weekend and wondered what they were. It didn't occur to me to looks for pods, I wasn't even sure how they seeded.

How old is the tree?
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Wow, high praise. Thank you for the kind words Gala!!

It helps to live in the same house for 23 years (after living in 20 different houses/apartments/townhomes/duplexes/etc., the first 20 years of my life).

I agree. After 5 years living in my house I wish we could move to a warmer and bigger place with more room for my plants, haha. Now I have a little paradise on my patio. :-) Where did you get your variegated calamondin? It seems hard to find here in FL. How long it took for the Poinciana tree to grow that big from seed? I got some seed pods from my last trip to Key West.
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