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Old 07-02-2012, 08:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Is this a flag leaf?


Got some sugar apples coming soon

What is this variety

This is like a 8 foot papaya. Fruit almost ready.

This is my variegated eureka on my Mexican lime

My apple is blooming???!!!
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Question on this banana and some pics.

I do not see a flag leaf on either of your first two photos.

The variety in question with the red blotches is Musa acuminata ssp. zebrina. I have also seen is listed as Musa sumatrana.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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That reddish color leave on the big top pics is half the size of all of the rest of the leaves.
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there might be a flag leaf about to show since the most recent leaf is shorter and does have that red mid rib. hmm can only wait and see.
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If it is half the size of the others (hard to tell that from those photos), then it is probably the "signal leaf" and the next will be the flag leaf.
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Doesn't look like a 'flag' leaf, but it DOES look mature enough that it shouldn't take much longer.
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Doesn't look like a 'flag' leaf, but it DOES look mature enough that it shouldn't take much longer.
It's about or around 10 feet easy.
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If that leaf is much shorter than the previous leaves..I could be a signal leaf or pre flag leaf.

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Default Re: Question on this banana and some pics.

There are several good collections of pics on the topic of "flags", "small" "half" etc etc.
The red rib is typical of the "pre xxxx..." seen on some cultivars (but not all).

is this a flag ?

My first flag leaf! woo hoo!

Is this the small one before the flag?

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Here is an uodate on the "pre flag leaf" . It has changed alittle heres an update .The banana referenced above is an unknown that I brought from my
grandpas house before he passed. I didnt get a chance to get the variety name for it. Can someone Id it.






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Looks like a flower is on it's way up!
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Default Re: Question on this banana and some pics.

the third picture from the top that you are asking about is an Atemoya

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Called a Custard Apple, I have one, my other died in the freeze. Now it won't produce fruit because it can't be pollenated. They are very good.
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the third picture from the top that you are asking about is an Atemoya

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Called a Custard Apple, I have one, my other died in the freeze. Now it won't produce fruit because it can't be pollenated. They are very good.
If you were depending on 2 to pollinate, you only need one. Mine wasn't fruiting, but flowering like crazy. I learned you can easily hand pollinate with a small paint brush. Just do it twice per day. I started doing that a few weeks ago and am now getting fruit for the first time!
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If you were depending on 2 to pollinate, you only need one. Mine wasn't fruiting, but flowering like crazy. I learned you can easily hand pollinate with a small paint brush. Just do it twice per day. I started doing that a few weeks ago and am now getting fruit for the first time!
Can you expand on hiw to hand pollinate?
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the third picture from the top that you are asking about is an Atemoya

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Called a Custard Apple, I have one, my other died in the freeze. Now it won't produce fruit because it can't be pollenated. They are very good.

I think this is a sugar apple not atemoya. If I remember correctly atemoya is a cherimoya-sugar apple cross? I can stand corrected though.
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If you were depending on 2 to pollinate, you only need one. Mine wasn't fruiting, but flowering like crazy. I learned you can easily hand pollinate with a small paint brush. Just do it twice per day. I started doing that a few weeks ago and am now getting fruit for the first time!
I'm very interested in your reply. I can't get a picture of the flower. Is it the funny looking little brownish like leaves that lay on each other? It's about 4 years old, I grew them from seeds and hoped it would have fruit. Do I use the paint brush on top of the leaves of under or both. I would love to have some fruit to eat, and seeds to plant.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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My tree's funny little browish leave don't look like any of these.

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My tree's funny little browish leave don't look like any of these.

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There is an excellent video on you tube on hand pollinating the cherimoya. Check it out it's awesome. Do you have a picture of the leaves on your tree and flowers?
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From the picture it does look more like a sugar apple to me, and if you planted an atemoya seed they aren't supposed to be true to type, which is why they are usually grafted. The one I have is double grafted-sugar apple rootstock, then cherimoya, then atemoya. Apparently there can be some degree of self pollination in humid environments.
I found this on pollinating. How To: Cherimoya Pollination - Tropicals Forum - GardenWeb I wasn't this thorough and what I'm doing works to some degree. I just try to remember to do so twice per day and force open flowers that seem larger in the morning if they aren't open yet. Don't know if that makes a difference though.
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Some reading material on the various Annona varieties:
CHERIMOYA Fruit Facts

The flowers change sex so they go from male to female, gotta collect & save some of its pollen to catch the blossom after it turns.

If we had the "right" kind of bugs here in the US we wouldn't have to mess with kinky blossoms!
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