to pup or to just sit there...

mskitty38583 · 06-25-2008, 10:43 AM

i have a question and i guess yall are the ones to answer. i have 3 ornatas lavander that are pupping like crazy, and only one of my ornata bronze only has one pup on it? they get watered at the same time and get fed the same amount of fert. is it that the lavander is a more prolific pupper or is it that it takes the bronze longer for some other reason? also how long does it usually take a saba and an oronico to pup? everythings fine with the saba and oronico, leaves and p-stem are healthy, does it just take a while for them to pup??? everything else is "full steam ahead", just wondering if im doing something wrong or if im just to darn impatient. lol.

CookieCows · 06-25-2008, 10:50 AM

Sam .... impatient?

That's an interesting question. I'll be interested to know if there is a difference also.

Deb

cedardave · 06-25-2008, 10:56 AM

I dont have the answer to the first part of your question. My Ornicos got here as large corms at the end of march and some in april. So far the 3 largest have offered up a 3 ft pup and the beginnings of three more pups. I dont know the age of the corms however as to how long it takes from a "new" plant to start pupping. I suppose a lot depends as well as to where they are located, heat,light and general care.

mskitty38583 · 06-25-2008, 11:09 AM

the bronze that has a pup is in partial shade, one lavander is in the shade( she now has 4 pups...wahoo). the other 2 lavanders are in full sun( one pup on one and 3 on the other) my second bronze is also in full sun( no pup). my saba and oronico are in full sun (all day sun). everything is healthy, in beautiful sades of green and no rot( thank god). and yes i do tend to get a little on the impatient side specially when it comes to my plants.

Bananaman88 · 06-25-2008, 12:05 PM

I think different bananas pup at different rates, even different plants within the same species or cultivar. I don't grow lavander, so I can't say about it, but my laterita 'Bronze' pups like crazy. Maybe you should adopt the phrase from the one about waiting for a pot of water to boil...A watched banana never pups!!! But turn your back for a few days and suddenly you'll have pups. Hang in there!

Rmplmnz · 06-25-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mskitty38583

i have a question and i guess yall are the ones to answer. i have 3 ornatas lavander that are pupping like crazy, and only one of my ornata bronze only has one pup on it? they get watered at the same time and get fed the same amount of fert. is it that the lavander is a more prolific pupper or is it that it takes the bronze longer for some other reason? also how long does it usually take a saba and an oronico to pup? everythings fine with the saba and oronico, leaves and p-stem are healthy, does it just take a while for them to pup??? everything else is "full steam ahead", just wondering if im doing something wrong or if im just to darn impatient. lol.

The lavenders pup more prolifically and right next/attached to the parent.

Bronze like to send runners out...is the bronze in the ground (if not it needs to be)? Be patient and the bronze will pup plenty..just needs room to run...I mow them over with the lawn mower and they still pop up everywhere..lol...

mskitty38583 · 06-26-2008, 09:02 AM

yes both bronze are in the ground. i have in one little bed a lavander a bronze and then another lavander. i did this to make a thick mat. lol. and i think its working. the lavanders around the bronze are shooting up pups. all but 4 of my nanas are in the ground. i didnt know that the bronze like to run. the bronze in my front flower bed has a pup right up tight to the mom. thanks for the info now i know what to look for.

mskitty38583 · 06-27-2008, 07:47 PM

well bananaman88 i do believe you were right.yesterday i went out and looked at all my nanas and same as before...what a bummer. then today i go out and look at my nanas....and oh my gosh i have a 6 inch pup on my saba. wahoo is all i can say.

. ok so maybe the old adage "patiences is a virtue", is right.

CookieCows · 06-27-2008, 08:24 PM

6" pup! Surprise!! Did you get rain? I love to go out after it rains. Seems like everything grows in fast motion.

Congrats!
Deb

magicgreen · 06-27-2008, 10:05 PM

Deb, I noticed that too! I talked to another banana grower here in town, and he said he gives each one of his a bucket full of water. That way he knows exactly how much water their getting.

CookieCows · 06-27-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by magicgreen

Deb, I noticed that too! I talked to another banana grower here in town, and he said he gives each one of his a bucket full of water. That way he knows exactly how much water their getting.

My mom used to have to water their family orchard like that when she was a little girl. One bucket per tree per day during dry times. My grandfather would periodically check the depth of damp ground to make sure she didn't slack off.

MediaHound · 06-27-2008, 10:39 PM

Too impatient!!

You know what pups like crazy? Musa 'Rose'!

magicgreen · 06-27-2008, 10:45 PM

Whats a Musa rose Jarred?
I did a search on the wiki and found it!

MediaHound · 06-27-2008, 10:50 PM

"Rose" banana... just another type thats out there...
Musa Rose - Bananas Wiki

mskitty38583 · 06-27-2008, 11:08 PM

impatient...me...no....well maybe...ok so yes im impatient. but i like seeing if they( my nanas) really like me and thats how i can tell they do...is by pupping. would love to have a rose.....its on the list. lol.

mskitty38583 · 06-28-2008, 11:47 AM

yes we got rain and thunder and lightning.

CookieCows · 06-28-2008, 11:57 AM

I figured you did... we did too.

hydroid · 06-28-2008, 12:39 PM

I work offshore and am gone for 28 days at a time and last hitch I noticed that my second year Sabas had no pups or even signs of pupping. My Williams were pupping like crazy. I got in yesterday from my hitch and both Sabas had 4 or 5 pups with one almost 2 ft. tall. It's amazing to see the difference 28 days make.

hydroid

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cedardave Junior Member cedardave's Photo Gallery Find me on the map! Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 77 BananaBucks : 1,124 Feedback: 5 / 100% Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: to pup or to just sit there... I dont have the answer to the first part of your question. My Ornicos got here as large corms at the end of march and some in april. So far the 3 largest have offered up a 3 ft pup and the beginnings of three more pups. I dont know the age of the corms however as to how long it takes from a "new" plant to start pupping. I suppose a lot depends as well as to where they are located, heat,light and general care.

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mskitty38583 banana junkie mskitty38583 's Photo Gallery Location: sparta, tn. Find me on the map! Zone: 6-7 Name: mskitty Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,595 BananaBucks : 15,323 Feedback: 24 / 100% Thanks: 23 Thanked 456 Times in 390 Posts Welcomes: 59	Re: to pup or to just sit there... yes both bronze are in the ground. i have in one little bed a lavander a bronze and then another lavander. i did this to make a thick mat. lol. and i think its working. the lavanders around the bronze are shooting up pups. all but 4 of my nanas are in the ground. i didnt know that the bronze like to run. the bronze in my front flower bed has a pup right up tight to the mom. thanks for the info now i know what to look for. __________________ WELCOME TO THE GATOR NATION "kokomo" beach boys:

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