Welcome to the Bananas.org forums. You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. |
|
Register | Photo Gallery | Classifieds | Wiki | Chat | Map | Today's Posts | Search |
Main Banana Discussion This is where we discuss our banana collections; tips on growing bananas, tips on harvesting bananas, sharing our banana photos and stories. |
Members currently in the chatroom: 0 | |
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009. No one is currently using the chat. |
Email this Page |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools |
12-03-2012, 09:51 PM | #1 (permalink) |
Location: Englewood, FL
Zone: 10a
Name: John
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 210
BananaBucks
: 27,535
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 76 Times
Was
Thanked 74 Times in 49 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 30 Times
|
Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
I took a pup from my DC about 6 weeks ago. It wasn't my best work because I only got a few roots and a smaller slice of the corm. I decided to plant it anyway. It was probably too small of a pup to cut off... about 18 inches tall. I have read that 4 feet is preferable, but I have taken other smaller pups with success. Well, the pup did not take regardless of all the attention I gave it... see photo. It is now all brown. The photo shows a little bit of green left, that was two weeks ago. I pulled it up yesterday and the roots were still alive. The thing is... the corm has produced a shoot. I am wondering why the actual pup died off if that small section of corm still has enough energy to produce a shoot from the growth point, why did the vegetative part (pup) die off? Not enough roots to sustain leaves? Thoughts? I'll try to get a pic of the corm with sprout tomorrow if needed.
__________________
Last edited by JodoGarden : 12-03-2012 at 09:57 PM. |
Said thanks: |
Sponsors |
12-03-2012, 09:56 PM | #2 (permalink) |
Happy Growing Location: Beaumont Texas
Zone: 8b, but 9b weather..
Name: Migael / Michael
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,492
BananaBucks
: 196,591
Feedback: 45 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 10,447 Times
Was
Thanked 16,440 Times in 5,237 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,318 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
Looks good to me.. My whole yard looked like that.. lol On the serious side.. Its insulation for a frost if you get one.. The roots need to get established before you see any growth. :^)
|
12-03-2012, 10:01 PM | #3 (permalink) |
Location: Englewood, FL
Zone: 10a
Name: John
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 210
BananaBucks
: 27,535
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 76 Times
Was
Thanked 74 Times in 49 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 30 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
Yeah, but the p-stem is mush... there hasn't been a frost yet. Usually don't get them until January. My other pups that rooted up are still growing. This one had no additional root growth after I planted it. The entire above ground portion died back, but the corm pushed a sprout. I'm just wondering why the corm didn't put it's energy into the existing pup.
__________________
|
12-03-2012, 10:41 PM | #4 (permalink) |
amantedelenguaje
Zone: 7
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 333
BananaBucks
: 30,378
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 832 Times
Was
Thanked 599 Times in 200 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,393 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
When I separate DC pups, I sometimes get the same result. Many times the leaves seem to stop growing and even begin to decay; however, when I pull off the decaying leaves back towards the meristem, there is often a little green leaf or leaves trying to form. Maybe the plant is drawing energy from the leaves until it can establish roots, start providing itself with nutrients, and make energy via photosynthesis. Perhaps it just does not appreciate the disruption. Additionally, I have to be careful not to over water the pups, as this rots the corm.
These are some pups DC pups that I removed around September 2012. They were much bigger, but now they are just little nubs. I had to peel back the dead leaves. In the one picture, you can still see the remnants of the dead foliage.
__________________
|
Said thanks: |
12-03-2012, 10:58 PM | #5 (permalink) | |
Location: Englewood, FL
Zone: 10a
Name: John
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 210
BananaBucks
: 27,535
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 76 Times
Was
Thanked 74 Times in 49 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 30 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
Quote:
__________________
|
|
Sponsors |
12-03-2012, 11:38 PM | #6 (permalink) |
<div style="font-style: italic;"><div style="font-style: italic;"></div></div> Location: SFV, California
Zone: USDA zone 10a; Sunset zone 18/19
Name: Andreas
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,301
BananaBucks
: 250,924
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1,474 Times
Was
Thanked 2,196 Times in 1,148 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 236 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
It happened to a pup that I pulled off of my Namwah as well.
__________________
"The ultimate goal of farming is not the growing of crops, but the cultivation and perfection of human beings." ~ Masanobu Fukuoka Find me on linktree here as Solarpunk Farmer: https://linktr.ee/solarpunkfarmer |
Said thanks: |
12-03-2012, 11:50 PM | #7 (permalink) |
Happy Growing Location: Beaumont Texas
Zone: 8b, but 9b weather..
Name: Migael / Michael
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,492
BananaBucks
: 196,591
Feedback: 45 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 10,447 Times
Was
Thanked 16,440 Times in 5,237 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,318 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
I believe I had it happen to DB when that was chopped for shipment. I never had a DC that didn't grow. I had Namwah do that once. :^)
|
Said thanks: |
12-04-2012, 12:33 PM | #8 (permalink) |
Commercial Grower
Location: Florida & Greater Antilles
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,544
BananaBucks
: 2,975
Feedback: 16 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 2,900 Times
Was
Thanked 12,463 Times in 3,620 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3,204 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
You need to be more careful and observant to what you are doing.
If the leaves die and the top becomes soft, you need to trim it back. It's difficult for a new leaf to push it's way through the rot, and being that is was a sword sucker, pushing through the side of the leaf sheaths is also difficult. Remove the dead pseudostem and split it, maybe you will find your answer. This is a photo of a bud that could not push it's way through the pseudostem, you can clearly see the spiraled peduncle.
__________________
Last edited by PR-Giants : 12-04-2012 at 08:07 PM. |
Said thanks: |
12-04-2012, 01:29 PM | #9 (permalink) |
Location: Englewood, FL
Zone: 10a
Name: John
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 210
BananaBucks
: 27,535
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 76 Times
Was
Thanked 74 Times in 49 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 30 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
Quote:
__________________
|
Said thanks: |
12-04-2012, 04:02 PM | #10 (permalink) |
Location: Dunnellon, Florida
Zone: 9b
Name: Noah
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,064
BananaBucks
: 37,978
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 2,207 Times
Was
Thanked 847 Times in 514 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 437 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
Experience is expensive but necessary. Good growing.
|
Said thanks: |
12-04-2012, 04:10 PM | #11 (permalink) |
Location: Florida Zone 9
Zone: 9
Name: Ed
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 916
BananaBucks
: 255,060
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,140 Times
Was
Thanked 952 Times in 415 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 10 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
If The Roots & PS Is Not 100% Rotted , Pull It Out From The Solil , & Place The Roots In a 5 Gallon Bucket with with water add 3 Drops Of Super Thrive & Leave it there for 30 Mins, Than Plant It With Good Potting Soil In A Pot Untill It Recovers .
Works for me all the time & I am a total Newbie to this Hobby. I also use a 12in Saw that i use to separate Pups , it cuts like Butta & causes no trauma To The Mother & Pup Plant . Good Luck Bro ! Last edited by edzone9 : 12-04-2012 at 04:16 PM. |
12-04-2012, 07:26 PM | #12 (permalink) | |
Location: Englewood, FL
Zone: 10a
Name: John
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 210
BananaBucks
: 27,535
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 76 Times
Was
Thanked 74 Times in 49 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 30 Times
|
Re: Proper Pupping Prevents Pitiful Plants
Quote:
__________________
|
|
Email this Page |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Proper transplanting techniques | Darkman | Banana Plant Health And Maintenance Topics | 11 | 10-19-2010 08:17 AM |
A proper introduction... | Kostas | Member Introductions | 15 | 05-01-2010 06:46 PM |
Proper pot size for small Bloodleaf | AV1611Corbin777 | Container Grown Banana Plants | 5 | 05-26-2009 03:34 PM |
I Need Proper Care Instructions For Jade Vine.. Thanks | lahaintattoo | Other Plants | 11 | 12-06-2008 08:28 PM |
Banana Hanging - What Is The Proper Way? | Capt. Steve | Main Banana Discussion | 2 | 04-11-2008 09:28 AM |