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Old 11-11-2006, 10:16 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Default Re: Post ONLY if getting "Siam Red" from Agri-Starts

Don't worry about it, Mark. If they can be shipped out to you in the UK, you're fine. You have been an active member here. Terry is referring to folks with one post just joining for the purpose of getting these plants.

The whole offer is a learning experience. In the future, if the offers need to be tailored so that only existing members are offered the plants, then that will be the case. For now, nothing has gotten out of hand in my humble opinion.
I do appreciate your pointing it out, and I did certainly notice the trend as it happened. I also had a feeling beforehand that there would be a few folks who would join just for this purpose.
I would hope the new members continue to be active. And I'm sure that getting these plants would give them reason to continue to stop by here every now and then and make a post or two, upload some photos of the progress of their 'Siam Ruby', etc.
I wouldn't recommend signing on for multiple accounts to get multiple plants, though! That's dishonest and could bite you in the rear (not you, Terry, just generally speaking). Besides, next time I stop by for a trade, I would see them in your yard

Brian is more than welcome to add his 2, of course.
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Old 11-11-2006, 10:32 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Terry, while I see your point, remember that Brian is the one with the plants, and it should be his decision to include or exclude anybody. What difference does it make if somebody joined just for this offer? Can you blame them? If it brings more folks to this forum to share their knowledge, experience, and wisdom, then I'm all for it!
Besides, I think that the more people that have this plant, the better for everyone else growing it. When there is an opportuntity to make a rare plant become widely available, I think everyone wins. That is, except for the folks who were going to try to make a fortune off of it on eBay (and I'm not talking about Brian, I'm talking about people who sold this plant on eBay before it is becoming available from tissue culture. I'm also NOT condemning those same people for selling them on eBay! In fact, I'm a firm believer in working the market, and getting the most that you can from a product! It is called capitalism and entrepreneurship!). A plant as striking and beautiful as this one should be in every banana enthusiast's yard!
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Old 11-11-2006, 12:42 PM   #103 (permalink)
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I had noticed... but what struck me is that the forum is new and still evolving. If this becomes a place to find 'inside deals' on bananas we may need to limit deals to the sale/trade section. It is pretty obvious that we are picking up new, experienced growers at a pretty fast rate. If we start picking up people w/ a related special interest like tissue culturing, that would be good, too.
Brian can always shorten his deadline, but he is probably/hopefully drawing more new people than multiple accounts. A year from now Jeff's Ae-Ae at $150 will look like a better deal than Siam Reds at $45.

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Old 11-11-2006, 01:54 PM   #104 (permalink)
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I was one of the last three who asked to be added to the list which was started after I joined this forum. I don't have alot of posts because for one I live in MO and my trees are put away for the season. I joined because there is alot of information from some very experienced people. I'm just a guy who got a couple of banana trees a few years ago and have turned into someone who can't spend enough time in my yard now because of my interest in these trees. So if all I can get here is info. Then I am happy enough to get that.
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Old 11-12-2006, 12:26 PM   #105 (permalink)
 
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Hi mudcat, nice to see another MO person here.

I really want to get one but since I am so new to bananas Im afraid to try. My Namwah Pearl that I got earlier this fall is not looking to good and I would hate to kill another banana.

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hi there-i would very very much like to be added to the list to buy a musa Siam Ruby for $45. the photos are stunning-i cant get over how beautiful it is. this is one of the reasons i love gardening-there is always something new around the corner to fall in love with. love or is it just red foliage lust? either way i really appreciate this generous offer. cant wait to grow this one! thanks-David
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Old 11-16-2006, 08:21 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Hi All,

I go away from the board for a few weeks....wow!

Anyway-please count me in for the Siam Red-two if possible. I'll be happy to share pups with others in L.A. if they suceed.

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Old 11-16-2006, 10:35 AM   #108 (permalink)
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Hey!!!!
I haven't been able to post for a few weeks...LIFE!!!!
I am still in on the Siam... I think it sounds like a wonderful offer.. Brian and Ty Thank You for allowing us this oppurtunity....
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Old 11-26-2006, 03:02 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Hi Guys. As I said in my 'unlurking post' in the cold hardy bananas forum, I've only just registered but have been reading for quite a while. However, I focused more on the cold hardy forum than this one, coming from a cold, dark, damp country ;-)

However, if it is deemed to be ok I would also like the opportunity to have one of these siam reds, if it can be sent to the UK. If the board feels that I haven't earned it yet, fair enough and I'll respect that.

The sound of other new ones being developed in Thailand certainly sound interesting ... I just hope that some are cold hardy as well as being fantastic to look at!
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are the reds still being accounted and spoken for... I'm a new member ..for sure.. and did see this thread up ...but I came first from a link to bigdogs overwintering photos.. loved it..and joned to learn and increase the flock..
But count me in if this is active... and available.. it sems to be quite old
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Hello Mr. Terry,

Please put me in for four (4). If there's not enough people to keep the price down to $20 each, I'd be willing to buy more. What is the target number, anyway?

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Chong,

You can't buy more to make the price drop. You are only allowed to buy one plant (unless Brian would change his mind about this) at $45.

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Old 11-27-2006, 09:35 AM   #113 (permalink)
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Please put me in for four (4). If there's not enough people to keep the price down to $20 each, I'd be willing to buy more. What is the target number, anyway?

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That idea was scrapped, I suggest you read the whole thread.
We're all getting the plants from Brian for $45.

Make sure you see post #25 in this thread from Agri-Starts (Ty) and post #39 from aroidgrower (Brian)
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Old 11-28-2006, 06:50 AM   #114 (permalink)
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I'd like to address tlturbo:

I have read this forum pretty regularly for quite awhile, yes I did finally registered when the red Thai banana was offered. Frankly, there has never been anything posted that interested me enough to bother to register, just as with other gardening forums and forums regarding tropical plants etc.

The standard range of topics for these forums is "will my tropical plant grow in zone 4", "my sun and humidity loving tropical plant is not doing well in my dark living room with forced heat - why is that" and of course the common one. "gee it got to 25 degrees here last night and my tropical plant looks burnt".

Yes, there is a certain degree of sarcasm in the above paragraph, which is the reason I just don't respond, sarcasm doesn't come off very well in writing. Now, I don't fault anyone for wanting to grow whatever they do, wherever they do, but, it amazes me the lack of common sense and knowledge people use to try and grow something out of their climate.

But, in response to your comment, I did decide to post a topic, to which I have gotten a whole 3 replies. My personal opinion was it was a half ass okay question; afterall it is kinda hard to determine what kind of diameter a mature banana will have when all you are doing is staring at a small pup. Apparently though I was wrong that it is a dumb question that no one who grows any variety of bananas can answer - which of your plants has the thickest stems. So, I'll leave the more intelligent questions such as can my banana survive outside in Alaska, to the more knowledgeable folks.

It's kinda funny that both Agri-starts and Brian are "new" members as well and don't seem to have participated anymore in your lively topics. Whether I get a red Thai from Brian doesn't matter to me - he's just another potential source. I will find one sooner or later, be it from him or someone else. Here's the last time a red banana was offered on eBay, I am the losing bidder at $175. No signing up here for multiple names or fake names - you can see my id is the same here as is on eBay.
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=130035580919
You can also see, I'm not afraid to spend the money. In this situation though, the plant is not worth $500 to me when I already know it is in tc.

Continue to have fun ruling your perceived little kingdom.
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Old 11-28-2006, 09:40 AM   #115 (permalink)
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In reply to PUGGYBW since you addressed your post toward me, and an apology up front to everyone else who has to read this.

YOU WROTE:>>I have read this forum pretty regularly for quite awhile, yes I did finally registered when the red Thai banana was offered. Frankly, there has never been anything posted that interested me enough to bother to register, just as with other gardening forums and forums regarding tropical plants etc.<<

I guess this first paragraph pretty well sums it up and explains why I made the post I did several weeks ago. Unless it is to your benefit, why bother registering and just saying HI and getting to know us. Obviously a lot of us on here are backyard growers, and one of the purposes of this type of forum is to provide help to anyone from beginners to the experts, and making new friends.

I do agree that some posts are annoying. If I read one more "How do I remove a pup" post, I'll scream. But at some point I'm sure I asked questions others saw as stupid or boring. These web sites are one of the best places to learn about your current interests. HEY JARRED - Maybe a FAQ secction?

YOU WROTE: >>Yes, there is a certain degree of sarcasm in the above paragraph, which is the reason I just don't respond, sarcasm doesn't come off very well in writing. Now, I don't fault anyone for wanting to grow whatever they do, wherever they do, but, it amazes me the lack of common sense and knowledge people use to try and grow something out of their climate.<<

That is called, dedication, desire and interest. How do you suggest they get this common sense if they don't associate with and ask questions of others that know a lot more than them? I had no idea how many people that live in colder climates actually dig up all their plants and store them under the house for the winter - THAT is a lot more dedication than I would have but more power to them.

YOU WROTE:>>But, in response to your comment, I did decide to post a topic, to which I have gotten a whole 3 replies. My personal opinion was it was a half ass okay question; afterall it is kinda hard to determine what kind of diameter a mature banana will have when all you are doing is staring at a small pup. Apparently though I was wrong that it is a dumb question that no one who grows any variety of bananas can answer - which of your plants has the thickest stems. So, I'll leave the more intelligent questions such as can my banana survive outside in Alaska, to the more knowledgeable folks.<<

I re-reading your post, all you asked for was suggestions of other dessert bananas that had thick pseudostems. I NEVER saw a question asking which of our plants had the thickest stem or how big your particular plant would get. I believe you received several suggestions and I will personally apologize to you for everyone on the message board who did NOT reply to you after you finally decided to honor us with your registration (oh yeah, I forgot about that red banana plant offer)

YOU WROTE:>>It's kinda funny that both Agri-starts and Brian are "new" members as well and don't seem to have participated anymore in your lively topics.<<

What a pleasure to have them join us. There was absolutely NO need for Agri-starts to see the effort we were all going through to get a red banana and contact Brian and suggest he make us an offer to get plants. I assume if you have been lurking on the board for some time, you read these posts and obviously had an interest in the Red since you tried to buy one on E-Bay. But did you register so you could join our effort? NO Only when the CHEAP offer presented itself did you decide to grace us with your presence.

And yes, YOU and your type were the main reasons I made that post. I can see no reason why people that found us boring and not worth associating with should reap the benefits of our efforts at trying to get a Red which resulted in the offer from Brian. I actually would limit the offer to those who offered to split the cost of a plant as we originally started out to do. Just look at how many people NOW have asked to buy one as compared to the number willing to originally split the cost. I'm sure when Brian made the offer he was looking at about 25 or so plants. I equate this to a community where several people want a boat ramp. They ask everyone in the community to help but only 5 neighbors do by chipping in time, money and effort to build a boat ramp in one of their yards but then when it is done, all the other neighbors who didn't want to help, think they should be able to use it too.

You wrote>>Whether I get a red Thai from Brian doesn't matter to me - he's just another potential source.<<

So let me get this straight. You don't care if you get a Red from Brian but you registered and made a post so you could ask for one even though you have never found any of our messages worth replying to and think many are stupid and a waste of time? I guess since you said you registered and made your post because of my comments I was right.

YOU WROTE:>>Continue to have fun ruling your perceived little kingdom.<<

I'm only a peon on here but I DO enjoy all the good friends I have made and I'm sure we all will enjoy our "little kingdom".

Have a good day.

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I want to make sure I am on the list...thanks!
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I felt the need to respond to puggybws thread as it p***ed me off a bit. We have a saying in the u.k that some people have more money than sense. I think he falls into that catagory. As for asking stupid questions...we all do it its called learning . so maybe puggybw you should lighten up....... or how do you say take a chill pill dude.

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I agree with you ,Mark. It's easy to critisize tropical growers when you live in zone 10, South Florida. He can grow everything but Apples!
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Wow I go away for awhile and come back to such heated discussions. I agree with turbo, maybe the Red should be offered to the people who were willing to split the cost of buying an original Red before Brians offer was made. I am not sure if I was one of the ones who offered in time or not but it seems like there are several people out there who like some of the new members who are here for one reason only. I agree with turbo in that I feel I have made some nice aquaintances in this forum. If we are not good enough to share everyday questions with then we are definitely not good enough to share our bananas with. For those of us who dont live in zone 9 and 10, we pay a hell of a lot of money in heating, greenhouses and labor to keep our banana plantations up so it's about time you give us a break when we asks questions that seem sooo simple to you. I went to med school in California and I know how that climate is. You simply throw something on the ground their and it grows and thrives. It is a little bit harder to get bananas to grow and we appreciate any help we get from members in this forum. Okay stepping down from my SOAPBOX now.
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Thanks guys for the backup.

BUT I want you to understand that I also live in Zone 10, S FL AND I also have problems. I would LOVE to grow Hostas. I have killed quite a few in my attempts. Roses are also tough. Lots of things can't take the heat. I'm trying to get some Brugs to grow and some will take the heat and some won't.

I will admit that living here is a lot easier if you like bananas and palms (and staghorns, my other weakness) although the sun is tough on Ae-Ae and I have trouble with Jamaican Reds for some reason. I'm just a hobbiest and don't test soil PH and all that stuff. If it lives in the hole where I stick it, so be it HA HA

And YES, I have made quite a few nice acquaintances on here. I wish my plants were bigger so I could offer pups to people that ask for them. Maybe in a year or so.

Take care and Happy Holidays to everyone.

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